4 ms·

> Most of those drugs had a component that actually pushed kids heavily towards socialization and forming peer groups. Now looking back to the results of that d

> Most of those drugs had a component that actually pushed kids heavily towards socialization and forming peer groups. Now looking back to the results of that drug consumption I would say that most of the individuals engaging on them were able to regulate and continue to what it seems to be a very normal adult life. Counterargument: a "very normal adult life" in our generations treats alcohol as basically mandatory for having a good time with a group. As someone who doesn't drink, I'm perfectly happy to go to parties and hang out and socialize, but as the night wears on it becomes less and less stimulating as the alcohol kicks in. People get less interesting on drugs, but they perceive themselves to be having more fun. It's a crutch. Now, maybe having a social crutch like alcohol is better than having a drug which encourages disappearing from the physical social world entirely, but our generation's answer was hardly healthy.

johnisgood 2y ago
A substance is a means to an end. What you described is just one of the many. And I agree. I do not drink, not even in social settings, and I feel like I'm the odd one out for doing so, thus I typically avoid parties and gatherings as much as possible. I do take something people would consider a drug though, but for different reasons you described. It is to manage pain, anxiety, and depression, difficulty walking, and urinary incontinence. What I take works for all of the problems that affects the quality of my life. That said, new year is coming up, and I'm definitely not going to drink.
frereubu 2y ago
I don't think that's true any more, at least not in the UK. Not drinking alcohol is becoming normalised to a large extent - most restaurants and bars I go to now have non-alcoholic options, some of which are really delicious. I had a non-alcoholic "dry martini" in a bar the other day which had a really nice bite to it. I used to feel a bit cheated with non-alcoholic options because they were mostly like overly sweet cocktails or nasty-tasting beers, but the choices are really opening out now.

johnisgood 2y ago

A substance is a means to an end. What you described is just one of the many. And I agree. I do not drink, not even in social settings, and I feel like I'm the odd one out for doing so, thus I typically avoid parties and gatherings as much as possible. I do take something people would consider a drug though, but for different reasons you described. It is to manage pain, anxiety, and depression, difficulty walking, and urinary incontinence. What I take works for all of the problems that affects the quality of my life. That said, new year is coming up, and I'm definitely not going to drink.

frereubu 2y ago

I don't think that's true any more, at least not in the UK. Not drinking alcohol is becoming normalised to a large extent - most restaurants and bars I go to now have non-alcoholic options, some of which are really delicious. I had a non-alcoholic "dry martini" in a bar the other day which had a really nice bite to it. I used to feel a bit cheated with non-alcoholic options because they were mostly like overly sweet cocktails or nasty-tasting beers, but the choices are really opening out now.