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> Teens aren't ... having sex. Nor are people in their 20s (that is, both groups are having much less sex). That is the most worrying thing to me. People are n

by mmooss 2y ago

> Teens aren't ... having sex. Nor are people in their 20s (that is, both groups are having much less sex). That is the most worrying thing to me. People are not even engaging in the most fundamental, unavoidable, pleasurable human drive. They seem very much like traumatized people, on a massive scale, just trying to survive.

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llm_trw 2y ago
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- reocha 2y ago
  Disregarding the weird response, you do know 20-29 year olds have the lowest average BMI for adult age groups right?
  - llm_trw 2y ago
    Higher than the 40-50 year olds when I was that age.
Henchman21 2y ago
I think we all realize deep down there are too many humans on this planet.
- jpcom 2y ago
  We can comfortably host 100B or more on this beautiful planet. Just gotta be strategic about it.
- kridsdale1 2y ago
  It’s possible to have infinite sex without influencing the population quantity. Well, you could decrease it.
- nozzlegear 2y ago
  I fundamentally disagree with this take, it's at odds with my belief in growth and dynamism.
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- BeFlatXIII 2y ago
  Quorum-sensing ain't just for bacteria.
robertoandred 2y ago
When you don't get matches, it's pretty easy to avoid sex.
- bonestamp2 2y ago
  ... and if everyone is always on screens it's hard to avoid the dating apps where they're not getting matches.
- badpun 2y ago
  Women get tons of matches though.
- mmooss 2y ago
  That doesn't explain why people would have less sex now than in the past.
globular-toast 2y ago
I'm starting to think many people just aren't into sex that much, in the same way many people aren't into food. Many people just get hungry and inhale the most convenient thing they can to scratch the hunger itch. McDonald's is always busy. People would be there on Christmas day if it was open. These people aren't into food as pleasure, they just don't want to be hungry. Of course with meal replacements bottles etc McDonald's isn't even the bottom of that particular barrel. It's the same with sex. I've met people who define themselves by their sexuality. They consider it a primary pursuit in life. But for others it's just scratching an itch. I've realised I'm basically that way. It doesn't mean that much to me, it's just something my body makes me do. Porn is now everywhere and more easily accessible than drugs. People are now able to reach for McDonald's or the meal replacement, but for sex.
- mmooss 2y ago
  You should do what you feel, of course, and there is no right or wrong. I still think that, generally, we have evolved to have a strong sex drive and to very much desire and enjoy it.
  - globular-toast 2y ago
    My point is it's not just sex drive. Do people who enjoy fine cuisine get more hungry than everyone else? I very much doubt it. There are just other things to do now and sex (and food) can be a very small part of a rich and fulfilling life. But I'm not disputing that this is (or will be) probably a problem. Not because of sex specifically, but because of people having no meaning in their lives. In less than a decade we might be facing a bunch of enslaved virgins approaching 30 realising they have nothing in life. No assets, no relationships, no family, and no prospects. Tik Tok isn't going to work out for 99% of them. It's going to be interesting.
    - mmooss 2y ago
      > Do people who enjoy fine cuisine IMHO that would be the analogy for 'great sex' rather than for 'sex'; that is, it would be for people who are motivated to have especially 'good' sexual experiences. I think the analogy for sex generally is basic hunger - food rather than starvation. Our sex drive, generally speaking, is that fundamental.
BeFlatXIII 2y ago
On the flip side, imagine the tremendous spiritual development possible to be unlocked by a generation undistracted by carnal desire.
- doctorwho42 2y ago
  But instead are distracted by modern algorithms built for a slow drip of dopamine!
- mmooss 2y ago
  Our sex drive is an essential, wonderful part of our spirit, IMHO. But more to your point, they are not undistracted, meditating peacefully. They are traumatized into submission. That's not a good state for spiritual development.
grecy 2y ago
> They seem very much like traumatized people, on a massive scale, just trying to survive. Every few years I like to leave the world for a bit and do something else to reset a bit. For example I just finished walking 779km on the Camino in Spain. What you said is essentially true for the vast majority of people in our modern world. What we have built is terrible for us, and we’re all suffering and very sick.

by mmooss 2y ago

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llm_trw 2y ago

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reocha 2y ago
Disregarding the weird response, you do know 20-29 year olds have the lowest average BMI for adult age groups right?
- llm_trw 2y ago
  Higher than the 40-50 year olds when I was that age.

Henchman21 2y ago

I think we all realize deep down there are too many humans on this planet.

jpcom 2y ago
We can comfortably host 100B or more on this beautiful planet. Just gotta be strategic about it.
kridsdale1 2y ago
It’s possible to have infinite sex without influencing the population quantity. Well, you could decrease it.
nozzlegear 2y ago
I fundamentally disagree with this take, it's at odds with my belief in growth and dynamism.
- deleted 2y ago
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BeFlatXIII 2y ago
Quorum-sensing ain't just for bacteria.

robertoandred 2y ago

When you don't get matches, it's pretty easy to avoid sex.

bonestamp2 2y ago
... and if everyone is always on screens it's hard to avoid the dating apps where they're not getting matches.
badpun 2y ago
Women get tons of matches though.
mmooss 2y ago
That doesn't explain why people would have less sex now than in the past.

globular-toast 2y ago

I'm starting to think many people just aren't into sex that much, in the same way many people aren't into food. Many people just get hungry and inhale the most convenient thing they can to scratch the hunger itch. McDonald's is always busy. People would be there on Christmas day if it was open. These people aren't into food as pleasure, they just don't want to be hungry. Of course with meal replacements bottles etc McDonald's isn't even the bottom of that particular barrel. It's the same with sex. I've met people who define themselves by their sexuality. They consider it a primary pursuit in life. But for others it's just scratching an itch. I've realised I'm basically that way. It doesn't mean that much to me, it's just something my body makes me do. Porn is now everywhere and more easily accessible than drugs. People are now able to reach for McDonald's or the meal replacement, but for sex.

mmooss 2y ago
You should do what you feel, of course, and there is no right or wrong. I still think that, generally, we have evolved to have a strong sex drive and to very much desire and enjoy it.
- globular-toast 2y ago
  My point is it's not just sex drive. Do people who enjoy fine cuisine get more hungry than everyone else? I very much doubt it. There are just other things to do now and sex (and food) can be a very small part of a rich and fulfilling life. But I'm not disputing that this is (or will be) probably a problem. Not because of sex specifically, but because of people having no meaning in their lives. In less than a decade we might be facing a bunch of enslaved virgins approaching 30 realising they have nothing in life. No assets, no relationships, no family, and no prospects. Tik Tok isn't going to work out for 99% of them. It's going to be interesting.
  - mmooss 2y ago
    > Do people who enjoy fine cuisine IMHO that would be the analogy for 'great sex' rather than for 'sex'; that is, it would be for people who are motivated to have especially 'good' sexual experiences. I think the analogy for sex generally is basic hunger - food rather than starvation. Our sex drive, generally speaking, is that fundamental.

BeFlatXIII 2y ago

On the flip side, imagine the tremendous spiritual development possible to be unlocked by a generation undistracted by carnal desire.

doctorwho42 2y ago
But instead are distracted by modern algorithms built for a slow drip of dopamine!
mmooss 2y ago
Our sex drive is an essential, wonderful part of our spirit, IMHO. But more to your point, they are not undistracted, meditating peacefully. They are traumatized into submission. That's not a good state for spiritual development.

grecy 2y ago

> They seem very much like traumatized people, on a massive scale, just trying to survive. Every few years I like to leave the world for a bit and do something else to reset a bit. For example I just finished walking 779km on the Camino in Spain. What you said is essentially true for the vast majority of people in our modern world. What we have built is terrible for us, and we’re all suffering and very sick.