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Teens aren't doing drugs, smoking, drinking, or having sex. And the suicide rate has never been higher.
by ikmckenz 2y ago
Teens aren't doing drugs, smoking, drinking, or having sex. And the suicide rate has never been higher.
- hathawsh 2y agoI'm not contradicting you, but it appears that the suicide rate hasn't changed since 2018. See this interactive chart and switch the Injury Type to Suicide: https://wisqars.cdc.gov/fatal-injury-trends/ https://wisqars.cdc.gov/fatal-injury-trends/ That chart shows the rate has hovered around 4000 per month for years. That's 4000 too many, but at least it's not increasing.
- ecshafer 2y agoBut we are also seeing shrinking amounts of children. So a steady suicide amount in raw terms is an increasing rate.
- kube-system 2y agoThat is the raw number, not the rate. Since the spread of social media, suicide rates are up for children, significantly: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db471.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db471.pdf > The suicide rate for people aged 15–19 did not change significantly from 2001 through 2009, then increased 57% from 2009 through 2017 > For people aged 10–14, the suicide rate tripled from 2007 through 2018
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- moralestapia 2y agoI don't follow. If the rate has gone and population as well, how come the total number is about the same?
- Schiendelman 2y agoIt decreased for older folks, and there are fewer kids now.
- moralestapia 2y agoOh, I see it now. Thanks!
- zeroonetwothree 2y agoHow are you disagreeing? The comment you responded to said it hasn’t changed since 2018.
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- ppsreejith 2y agoThe increase from 2009 could also be correlated with the rise of smartphones
- notTooFarGone 2y agoOr a major financial crisis that left behind many people?
- mr_toad 2y ago> I'm not contradicting you, but it appears that the suicide rate hasn't changed since 2018. Peak social media?
- conductr 2y agoI've had is persisting thought that, we as a society have been delaying adulthood, thus extending childhood, with each decade for a while. And we've now pushed it so far that the current cohort of teens simply are effectively young children on a social/emotion perspective making them unprepared to handle the stresses their age is exposing them to.
- FredPret 2y agoThere must be a good balance between the grow-up-quick-or-die-horribly of the pre-technology world and the my-cats-are-my-kids life of the post-danger world
- GeoAtreides 2y agoThe age of majority should be the end of a journey, not a bureaucratic milestone.
- cosmic_cheese 2y agoI would agree that modern childhood is protracted to what is perhaps a damaging extent, but would also argue that the stresses and anxieties of everyday life are more constant and overbearing than the human psyche is equipped to handle. It’s mot healthy for well-adjusted adults either. We’re built for dangers and stresses that come in relatively short bursts, not those that are without end.
- llm_trw 2y agoIn 1924 you would expect to be a child in a family of 5 with two dying before they hit their majority. We are simply blind to how much even the relatively recent past sucked.
- makeitdouble 2y ago> have been delaying adulthood If you have kids, do you see them as less mature than how you perceived yourself at their age ? TBH I feel the opposite: current kids have a lot more to deal with, and are expected to be much much more down to earth than a few decades ago. The most basic things: a single post on an SNS can stick with them for the rest of their life, yet we moved half of our social life online.
- dpndencekultur 2y agoErich Fromm said this in his "Fear of Freedom" We live in a time that we are able to customize our lives to our delights. That makes us lose perspective and purpose. So we look to movements to fill the void. That was back in the 50's/60's I think he was spot on why this generation can't see past the last scroll or click. They don't have perspective because they have not been bred to have it. It's very sad.
- paulryanrogers 2y ago> They don't have perspective because they have not been bred to have it. It's very sad. Did 'bred' once include upbringing? I thought it began and ended with mate selection, pairing, and procreation.
- mmooss 2y ago> Teens aren't ... having sex. Nor are people in their 20s (that is, both groups are having much less sex). That is the most worrying thing to me. People are not even engaging in the most fundamental, unavoidable, pleasurable human drive. They seem very much like traumatized people, on a massive scale, just trying to survive.
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- Henchman21 2y agoI think we all realize deep down there are too many humans on this planet.
- jpcom 2y agoWe can comfortably host 100B or more on this beautiful planet. Just gotta be strategic about it.
- kridsdale1 2y agoIt’s possible to have infinite sex without influencing the population quantity. Well, you could decrease it.
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