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It's not 'toxic material', it has a toxic dose. Too much water and you die. You do want some percentage of that level of water, though.

by OJFord 2y ago

croes 2y ago
The brominated flame retardants are inherently toxic and are therefore considered toxic materials.
- EasyMark 2y ago
  Especially since it can build up in the body. Kind of like some vitamins you can have 1000% of the RDA because they are very water-soluble and go through like a sieve anyway, but others get toxic much quicker because they are fat soluble and get stored in fat cells for the long haul.
  - OJFord 2y ago
    How many spatulae are you planning on eating?
    - danielschreber 2y ago
      It's important to consider that the average person is probably much less likely to eat a spatula that is on fire. Therefore, simply averaging the flame retardant content of a random sample of spatulas could result in a bias. It's precisely the ones that are the most toxic that one would expect to be the most edible.
    - canucker2016 2y ago
      First, you have to find a spatula with the specific compound in question. Less than 10% of items studied contained the specific compound in the article. FTA: The study examined 203 black plastic household products, including 109 kitchen utensils, 36 toys, 30 hair accessories, and 28 food serviceware products. Of those 203 products, only 20 (10 percent) had any bromine-containing compounds at levels that might indicate contamination from bromine-based flame retardants, like BDE-209. Of the 109 kitchen utensils tested, only nine (8 percent) contained concerning bromine levels. "[A] minority of black plastic products are contaminated at levels >50 ppm [bromine]," the study states. But that's just bromine compounds. Overall, only 14 of the 203 products contained BDE-209 specifically.
      - nobodyandproud 2y ago
        Only 10% across the board, but what’s the probability that one or more of black plastic food tools in a given home contains bromine-based fire retardants? Probability is a bitch.
    - croes 2y ago
      It’s adds up with all the other sources of toxic material we are exposed to.
- Ferret7446 2y ago
  The point is that nothing is inherently toxic, as there are almost certainly trace amounts of countless different compounds that are "inherently toxic" all around you. Again, it depends on the dose. I don't think there are many, if any, chemicals where a dozen molecules would negatively affect a healthy adult. I would wager that you inhale more than zero molecules of this "inherently toxic" flame retardant when you breathe. So you are going to stop breathing?

It's not 'toxic material', it has a toxic dose. Too much water and you die. You do want some percentage of that level of water, though.

by OJFord 2y ago

It's not 'toxic material', it has a toxic dose. Too much water and you die. You do want some percentage of that level of water, though.

croes 2y ago

The brominated flame retardants are inherently toxic and are therefore considered toxic materials.

EasyMark 2y ago
Especially since it can build up in the body. Kind of like some vitamins you can have 1000% of the RDA because they are very water-soluble and go through like a sieve anyway, but others get toxic much quicker because they are fat soluble and get stored in fat cells for the long haul.
- OJFord 2y ago
  How many spatulae are you planning on eating?
  - danielschreber 2y ago
    It's important to consider that the average person is probably much less likely to eat a spatula that is on fire. Therefore, simply averaging the flame retardant content of a random sample of spatulas could result in a bias. It's precisely the ones that are the most toxic that one would expect to be the most edible.
  - canucker2016 2y ago
    First, you have to find a spatula with the specific compound in question. Less than 10% of items studied contained the specific compound in the article. FTA: The study examined 203 black plastic household products, including 109 kitchen utensils, 36 toys, 30 hair accessories, and 28 food serviceware products. Of those 203 products, only 20 (10 percent) had any bromine-containing compounds at levels that might indicate contamination from bromine-based flame retardants, like BDE-209. Of the 109 kitchen utensils tested, only nine (8 percent) contained concerning bromine levels. "[A] minority of black plastic products are contaminated at levels >50 ppm [bromine]," the study states. But that's just bromine compounds. Overall, only 14 of the 203 products contained BDE-209 specifically.
    - nobodyandproud 2y ago
      Only 10% across the board, but what’s the probability that one or more of black plastic food tools in a given home contains bromine-based fire retardants? Probability is a bitch.
  - croes 2y ago
    It’s adds up with all the other sources of toxic material we are exposed to.
Ferret7446 2y ago
The point is that nothing is inherently toxic, as there are almost certainly trace amounts of countless different compounds that are "inherently toxic" all around you. Again, it depends on the dose. I don't think there are many, if any, chemicals where a dozen molecules would negatively affect a healthy adult. I would wager that you inhale more than zero molecules of this "inherently toxic" flame retardant when you breathe. So you are going to stop breathing?