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9/11 changed the game. Fear is a powerful motivator. Cameras on: - public roadways, highways - streets (nyc, london) - businesses - private cars - public

by xyst 2y ago

9/11 changed the game. Fear is a powerful motivator. Cameras on: - public roadways, highways - streets (nyc, london) - businesses - private cars - public transportation - interiors of cars - perimeter of residential homes - interiors of homes - civilian law enforcement agencies equipped with body cams - and of course the audio, video, GPS capable devices a majority of the world carries - now adding to the list is private businesses equipping employees with body cams The “selfie” and social media made us accustomed to posting personal information online as well. The surveillance state is already here and people are barely waking up to this shit.

MetaWhirledPeas 2y ago
> 9/11 changed the game It did, but not as much as cheap technology did, at least when we're talking about cameras everywhere.
eadmund 2y ago
> 9/11 changed the game. Almost a quarter century later, I remain amazed that Americans put up with locks the government has the key to (on our luggage). As someone who grew up in the Cold War, that’s the sort of thing we would have expected from the Soviets. IIRC, it was during Nixon’s term that things started to go awry. I believe it was his administration who responded to security incidents on æroplanes with the un-American approaching of disarming passengers.
- potato3732842 2y ago
  >Almost a quarter century later, I remain amazed that Americans put up with locks the government has the key to (on our luggage). As someone who grew up in the Cold War, that’s the sort of thing we would have expected from the Soviets. Remember, Americans reacted to the drugs and crime of the 80s and 90s by throwing more government invasion of privacy and erosion of due process at that problem too.
PittleyDunkin 2y ago
Fear is also highly irrational. We have a 9/11 in terms of auto deaths about every month. We watch millions die from a preventable pandemic just to keep the economy going. Neither of these things seems to provoke much desire from the state to protect americans. I don't think it's just fear, either. I remember the bloodlust and feigned victimhood that spilled out after 9/11 and I never want to live through that again. We got permission to behave in the worst way possible and so much of our culture never recovered from that. We now live under a more despotic government than we ever accused the soviets of. "patriotism" can kiss my ass

by xyst 2y ago

MetaWhirledPeas 2y ago

> 9/11 changed the game It did, but not as much as cheap technology did, at least when we're talking about cameras everywhere.

eadmund 2y ago

> 9/11 changed the game. Almost a quarter century later, I remain amazed that Americans put up with locks the government has the key to (on our luggage). As someone who grew up in the Cold War, that’s the sort of thing we would have expected from the Soviets. IIRC, it was during Nixon’s term that things started to go awry. I believe it was his administration who responded to security incidents on æroplanes with the un-American approaching of disarming passengers.

potato3732842 2y ago
>Almost a quarter century later, I remain amazed that Americans put up with locks the government has the key to (on our luggage). As someone who grew up in the Cold War, that’s the sort of thing we would have expected from the Soviets. Remember, Americans reacted to the drugs and crime of the 80s and 90s by throwing more government invasion of privacy and erosion of due process at that problem too.

PittleyDunkin 2y ago

Fear is also highly irrational. We have a 9/11 in terms of auto deaths about every month. We watch millions die from a preventable pandemic just to keep the economy going. Neither of these things seems to provoke much desire from the state to protect americans. I don't think it's just fear, either. I remember the bloodlust and feigned victimhood that spilled out after 9/11 and I never want to live through that again. We got permission to behave in the worst way possible and so much of our culture never recovered from that. We now live under a more despotic government than we ever accused the soviets of. "patriotism" can kiss my ass