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(I really don't like this but) I definitely expect the future will involve ubiquitous on-person video & audio recording. People will walk around with devices th

(I really don't like this but) I definitely expect the future will involve ubiquitous on-person video & audio recording. People will walk around with devices that constantly record every interaction, which will eventually seem normal. A lot of formerly private conversations will be uploaded to whatever social media we have in the future, some stuff will go viral, etc. Goodbye any semblance of privacy!

MetaWhirledPeas 2y ago
Yeah this might just be a bunch of suits seizing an opportunity created by cheap technology (and not an indicator of some moral decline, the position I instinctively moved to at first).
CSMastermind 2y ago
Seems like a great market for non-recorded spaces. Or society will eventually just develop strong norms about recording.
- soupfordummies 2y ago
  This is already kinda starting to happen to a lesser degree with phone-free events or the nightclub phone stickers posted a couple weeks ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42352825 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42352825
pjc50 2y ago
Assymetric recording. There will be people recording you, but you'll be either legally barred from recording them or banned from publishing it on the Internet. (this is likely where the norms around recording will end up - reinforcing the existing power structure)
- morkalork 2y ago
  This is very true, you can film people in public but if you step on to private property and do the same you can be told to stop, and removed if you don't. It will be entirely asymmetric.
  - bilbo0s 2y ago
    The fact that it won't be asymmetric in public is the issue. Anyone can record you because you can't stop them from recording their daughter's birthday party in a public park. If you don't want to be in the frame, you have to leave. Only you didn't realize that woman was recording her daughter when you walked out of the hotel in front of the park. Now the video is public on social media, and people can use the new fangled "Are We Dating the Same Guy/Gal" facial recognition models to basically run searches that would not have previously been possible on all public videos on a site. Search might even be geo-fenced to make it faster? Who knows? Point is, it allows them to find you coming out of that hotel in the background with your "friend" from work. Keep in mind, it might not even stop there? Now when you approach a girl or guy you may be interested in, maybe in class, maybe at a party, whatever, his or her new fangled "smart glasses" may now bring up a huge red blinking "DIRT BAG" without you even knowing it. Maybe ubiquitous tech like these body cams are necessary? I'm just asking everyone to think down the road a bit, (not even very far down the road honestly), and ask yourselves if maybe we can be a little more creative about solving some these problems by means other than ubiquitous gaze?
    - morkalork 2y ago
      Hehe, and again another Black Mirror episode comes to mind: The ending to White Christmas where the guy is literally "red flagged" in the eyes of everyone and a social paria for the rest of his life.
morkalork 2y ago
The episode of Black Mirror "The Entire History of You" comes to mind.

MetaWhirledPeas 2y ago

Yeah this might just be a bunch of suits seizing an opportunity created by cheap technology (and not an indicator of some moral decline, the position I instinctively moved to at first).

CSMastermind 2y ago

Seems like a great market for non-recorded spaces. Or society will eventually just develop strong norms about recording.

soupfordummies 2y ago
This is already kinda starting to happen to a lesser degree with phone-free events or the nightclub phone stickers posted a couple weeks ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42352825 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42352825

pjc50 2y ago

Assymetric recording. There will be people recording you, but you'll be either legally barred from recording them or banned from publishing it on the Internet. (this is likely where the norms around recording will end up - reinforcing the existing power structure)

morkalork 2y ago
This is very true, you can film people in public but if you step on to private property and do the same you can be told to stop, and removed if you don't. It will be entirely asymmetric.
- bilbo0s 2y ago
  The fact that it won't be asymmetric in public is the issue. Anyone can record you because you can't stop them from recording their daughter's birthday party in a public park. If you don't want to be in the frame, you have to leave. Only you didn't realize that woman was recording her daughter when you walked out of the hotel in front of the park. Now the video is public on social media, and people can use the new fangled "Are We Dating the Same Guy/Gal" facial recognition models to basically run searches that would not have previously been possible on all public videos on a site. Search might even be geo-fenced to make it faster? Who knows? Point is, it allows them to find you coming out of that hotel in the background with your "friend" from work. Keep in mind, it might not even stop there? Now when you approach a girl or guy you may be interested in, maybe in class, maybe at a party, whatever, his or her new fangled "smart glasses" may now bring up a huge red blinking "DIRT BAG" without you even knowing it. Maybe ubiquitous tech like these body cams are necessary? I'm just asking everyone to think down the road a bit, (not even very far down the road honestly), and ask yourselves if maybe we can be a little more creative about solving some these problems by means other than ubiquitous gaze?
  - morkalork 2y ago
    Hehe, and again another Black Mirror episode comes to mind: The ending to White Christmas where the guy is literally "red flagged" in the eyes of everyone and a social paria for the rest of his life.

morkalork 2y ago

The episode of Black Mirror "The Entire History of You" comes to mind.