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I run a WordPress agency and I'm absolutely horrified by all of this. It's not cutting through to our clients yet, but building on WordPress suddenly feels incr

I run a WordPress agency and I'm absolutely horrified by all of this. It's not cutting through to our clients yet, but building on WordPress suddenly feels incredibly risky when one person can throw their toys out of the pram - the pineapple checkbox is just fucking ridiculous - and derail an entire ecosystem. I really wish there was some kind of mechanism to cut Matt entirely out of WordPress because he deserves to be completely ostracised.

semi-extrinsic 2y ago
Planning to set up a new customer-facing website next year, and there is 0.0% chance that it will be based on WordPress, even though several of our existing websites are WP.
- therealdrag0 2y ago
  What will you use instead?
  - semi-extrinsic 2y ago
    Probably Wagtail.
    - QuantumGood 2y ago
      Wagtail = Open-source CMS developed in Python to work with Django
_zagj 2y ago
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- frereubu 2y ago
  Oh stop it. That kind of snark is pointless. WordPress with the correct hosting setup and good coding practices is absolutely fine. It's the cheap hosting and throwing insecure plugins that causes issues with WordPress sites.
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acdha 2y ago
I wish he had someone who he trusted who could help him get therapy. So many people have benefited from his project but now anyone with a business is going to ask whether he’s about to do something wild, which is a tragic end for such a popular open source project.
- nolok 2y ago
  That's also what happens when you clear house of everyone but the yes men (which he did with his large severance offer for anyone not willing to say yes to anything he said). Yes men make you feel better, but they're nowhere to be seen whenever you actually need help.
  - acdha 2y ago
    Definitely: he radiates someone who hasn’t had to defend his decisions for years.
- bookofjoe 2y ago
  The problem is that paranoids trust NO ONE, so this is impossible. Same reason rock stars implode from time to time: the money, fame, and ALL ACCESS pass to drugs create a solipsistic world view.
TheNewsIsHere 2y ago
Hard agree. I’ve been chatting to my partners about this, and we aren’t planning to deploy anything net new on WordPress indefinitely. In one respect it’s a shame to give Matt that power. On the other hand, I can’t control that he’s showing his ass, and I’m not risking my business or client deliverables on an unstable ecosystem.

semi-extrinsic 2y ago

Planning to set up a new customer-facing website next year, and there is 0.0% chance that it will be based on WordPress, even though several of our existing websites are WP.

therealdrag0 2y ago
What will you use instead?
- semi-extrinsic 2y ago
  Probably Wagtail.
  - QuantumGood 2y ago
    Wagtail = Open-source CMS developed in Python to work with Django

_zagj 2y ago

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frereubu 2y ago
Oh stop it. That kind of snark is pointless. WordPress with the correct hosting setup and good coding practices is absolutely fine. It's the cheap hosting and throwing insecure plugins that causes issues with WordPress sites.

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acdha 2y ago

I wish he had someone who he trusted who could help him get therapy. So many people have benefited from his project but now anyone with a business is going to ask whether he’s about to do something wild, which is a tragic end for such a popular open source project.

nolok 2y ago
That's also what happens when you clear house of everyone but the yes men (which he did with his large severance offer for anyone not willing to say yes to anything he said). Yes men make you feel better, but they're nowhere to be seen whenever you actually need help.
- acdha 2y ago
  Definitely: he radiates someone who hasn’t had to defend his decisions for years.
bookofjoe 2y ago
The problem is that paranoids trust NO ONE, so this is impossible. Same reason rock stars implode from time to time: the money, fame, and ALL ACCESS pass to drugs create a solipsistic world view.

TheNewsIsHere 2y ago

Hard agree. I’ve been chatting to my partners about this, and we aren’t planning to deploy anything net new on WordPress indefinitely. In one respect it’s a shame to give Matt that power. On the other hand, I can’t control that he’s showing his ass, and I’m not risking my business or client deliverables on an unstable ecosystem.