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order results from consequences. it's ok if you want to be timid, but don't shame others for helping restore order.
by tonymet 2y ago
order results from consequences. it's ok if you want to be timid, but don't shame others for helping restore order.
- criddell 2y agoIs fear of punishment the main reason you aren't out there stealing the things you want and killing those who get in your way?
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- mihaic 2y agoFor many people, especially from some terrible cultures I've personally met, the odds of being punished are really the only deterrent.
- tonymet 2y agoI'm a decent person, so no. But most crime is committed by a minority of scumbags who require consequences.
- wyager 2y agoThe question isn't enlightening, because the modal HN commenter isn't anything like the modal criminal
- tonymet 2y agoi like your use of modal. if more people understood that criminality follows power law distribution, we would have better policy.
- knowitnone 2y agoYes
- dylan604 2y agointeresting. the concept of that's not yours and is actually someone else's isn't the most compelling reason? very interesting
- lotsofpulp 2y agoThat concept encompasses a ton of gray area. For example, did the ancestors of the person you are stealing from enslave your ancestors? Or more simply, are you or your children going to go hungry? At the limit, the rule is always might makes right. Until then, the question is how much are you willing to give up to re-order the status quo? (A reordering that may or may not end up in your favor)
- dylan604 2y agoI'm not really sure what you're trying to say. You're saying a double negative makes a right? Vengeance is mine sayeth you?
- lotsofpulp 2y agoAlmost everyone can be put into a situation where they rationalize a “negative” into a not negative, most easily visible in cases in which the item being disputed is a scarce resource essential to survival. > the concept of that's not yours and is actually someone else's isn't the most compelling reason? At its core, this concept is more of a truce where multiple parties agree that the costs of physical violence are not worth it, because the alternative is more acceptable. Hence the saying that “society is only 3 or 6 or 9 meals away from revolution”.
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