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Isn't "folx" lingo or jargon? Like, let me explain a bit... Just like "shade", "tea", and other queer lingo that was predominantly used within the queer commun

Isn't "folx" lingo or jargon? Like, let me explain a bit... Just like "shade", "tea", and other queer lingo that was predominantly used within the queer community, "folx" was originally (in recent usage) a term that was used by some queer folk as a signal to indicate safety and inclusiveness. But like "shade", some outsiders heard that jargon and started using it in communities where it wasn't common, and didn't carry the original intent, and so it looked confusing or annoying. I think it's fine for communities to have vernacular words that are understood within their community, I suspect the real "villains" here to you are the folk who pull that jargon out and try to make it widespread.

zahlman 2y ago
People absolutely say "folks" in person nowadays (of course you wouldn't be able to hear a distinction between "ks" and "x"). It's common (although, yes, mediated by subculture) around where I live. I grew up in a culture where nobody had a problem with "you guys". I am really not that old, and I still live in the same city. As for "not carrying the original intent" - I don't see how there's any meaningful difference in intent.
- ternnoburn 2y ago
  Folx is exclusively a written construct. It's not the same as folks. They do sound the same though. > I grew up in a culture where nobody had a problem with "you guys". Did no one have a problem? Or did no one voice a problem? I'd believe the latter, but I don't know how it would be possible to know the former.
pessimizer 2y ago
These are all black American words, not "queer lingo." Other than "folks" which is Southern, but comes to upper-middle class white people through Obama's act of pretending he had ever met black Americans before college at UCLA. They come from the long tradition of gay men copying black American female mannerisms, not anything "queer." > I suspect the real "villains" here to you are the folk who pull that jargon out and try to make it widespread. Gay men have contributed a lot to world culture, they're not villains.
- ternnoburn 2y ago
  Go watch Paris is Burning. They absolutely are Black queer lingo for decades prior to them becoming known outside Black communities. Which then became queer lingo. Which then became popular lingo. > Gay men have contributed a lot to world culture, they're not villains Absolutely, I never insinuated otherwise. I also don't believe it's villainous to share one's culture and lingo. But the op who objected to folx appears to think that it is bad. Take it up with them!
- AlotOfReading 2y ago
  Since when is "folks" limited to black Americans? It was being heard in households across America for 50 years from Loony Tunes and the news.
  - ternnoburn 2y ago
    They are referring to "shade" and "tea". Eg in "That's the tea. All tea, no shade." Meaning "that's the truth, the straight truth, no disrespect intended". These terms rose in popularity in the ballroom scene in New York. (Note: not ballroom dancing, but rather "drag ball" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_culture https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_culture). The culture of that scene was predominantly Black and Latino.

zahlman 2y ago

People absolutely say "folks" in person nowadays (of course you wouldn't be able to hear a distinction between "ks" and "x"). It's common (although, yes, mediated by subculture) around where I live. I grew up in a culture where nobody had a problem with "you guys". I am really not that old, and I still live in the same city. As for "not carrying the original intent" - I don't see how there's any meaningful difference in intent.

ternnoburn 2y ago
Folx is exclusively a written construct. It's not the same as folks. They do sound the same though. > I grew up in a culture where nobody had a problem with "you guys". Did no one have a problem? Or did no one voice a problem? I'd believe the latter, but I don't know how it would be possible to know the former.

pessimizer 2y ago

These are all black American words, not "queer lingo." Other than "folks" which is Southern, but comes to upper-middle class white people through Obama's act of pretending he had ever met black Americans before college at UCLA. They come from the long tradition of gay men copying black American female mannerisms, not anything "queer." > I suspect the real "villains" here to you are the folk who pull that jargon out and try to make it widespread. Gay men have contributed a lot to world culture, they're not villains.

ternnoburn 2y ago
Go watch Paris is Burning. They absolutely are Black queer lingo for decades prior to them becoming known outside Black communities. Which then became queer lingo. Which then became popular lingo. > Gay men have contributed a lot to world culture, they're not villains Absolutely, I never insinuated otherwise. I also don't believe it's villainous to share one's culture and lingo. But the op who objected to folx appears to think that it is bad. Take it up with them!
AlotOfReading 2y ago
Since when is "folks" limited to black Americans? It was being heard in households across America for 50 years from Loony Tunes and the news.
- ternnoburn 2y ago
  They are referring to "shade" and "tea". Eg in "That's the tea. All tea, no shade." Meaning "that's the truth, the straight truth, no disrespect intended". These terms rose in popularity in the ballroom scene in New York. (Note: not ballroom dancing, but rather "drag ball" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_culture https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_culture). The culture of that scene was predominantly Black and Latino.