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Proxmox Announces Proxmox Datacenter Manager

30 points by LorenDB 2y ago

gregatragenet3 2y ago
Have to login to see any of the screenshots
- mdaniel 2y ago
  https://bugmenot.com/view/forum.proxmox.com https://bugmenot.com/view/forum.proxmox.com to the rescue (the rh8dohgnoidr username worked for me) https://imgur.com/a/8jmfHVB https://imgur.com/a/8jmfHVB are the two screenshots from the first post One will want to avoid using $(git clone --recursive) since they have a bogus url in their .gitmodules https://git.proxmox.com/?p=proxmox-datacenter-manager.git;a=blob;f=.gitmodules;h=43988880fb5b4c6f844fc7ad3ca78ac0f75d71eb;hb=HEAD#l6 https://git.proxmox.com/?p=proxmox-datacenter-manager.git;a=...
  - tlamponi 2y ago
    > since they have a bogus url in their .gitmodules Fixed just now.
    - mdaniel 2y ago
      Does that work for you in your CI or what? fatal: remote error: access denied or repository not exported: /rust/proxmox-api-types and I tried the https flavor, just in case, with the same outcome fatal: repository 'https://git.proxmox.com/rust/proxmox-api-types/' not found
      - tlamponi 2y ago
        Argh, I had a borked test, sorry! Now fixed the second module too and did a fresh clone in a fresh, isolated directory to confirm it really works now.
stackskipton 2y ago
Looks like it's getting hugged to death.
deleted 2y ago
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robinhoodexe 2y ago
This link seems to work: https://www.proxmox.com/en/about/press-releases/proxmox-datacenter-manager-alpha https://www.proxmox.com/en/about/press-releases/proxmox-data...
tlamponi 2y ago
It's an early alpha; the bigger news hidden within is our new Rust/Yew based web framework called proxmox-yew-widget-toolkit [0], it will allow us to move away from ExtJS (where the backing company seemingly forgot that they used to be open source) and go full in on Rust in the frontend too; it really is a breath of fresh air! https://git.proxmox.com/?p=ui/proxmox-yew-widget-toolkit.git;a=tree https://git.proxmox.com/?p=ui/proxmox-yew-widget-toolkit.git... If you got any question feel free to ask.
- oddly 2y ago
  Really interesting, thanks for letting us know. There hasn't been a lot of new about this (not that I've been looking that long), is there a place to follow up on these developments, a roadmap of sorts? Edit: Misread, thought this was about the "normal" Proxmox web UI. Any plans to make that Rust based?
  - tlamponi 2y ago
    > is there a place to follow up on these developments, a roadmap of sorts? For PDM there is a roadmap [0] for the new widget toolkit there isn't such a single documents, but an initial whitepaper (well simple markdown-formatted text to provide some background and examples). For development, you can follow on the mailing lists [1] or use our public inbox interface [2] for them, yew-devel is for the web framework/widget toolkit and pdn-devel is for, well, PDM. > Any plans to make that Rust based? Spelled out, detailed and actionable plan? No. On the long-term roadmap? Yes, definitively. [0]: https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Proxmox_Datacenter_Manager_Roadmap https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Proxmox_Datacenter_Manager_Road... [1]: https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo [2]: https://lore.proxmox.com/ https://lore.proxmox.com/
- vaxman 2y ago
  "It's 1990, time to get ugly. [Pre-Chorus 2] Should be a crime to be that ugly." https://youtu.be/CroETQY51J4 https://youtu.be/CroETQY51J4 Just for the record, you cannot go in my headset with that UX [Kids who have been playing with Proxmoxx for the past decade face serious competitive threats from a new generation that will NOT recommend product$ that look like 1980s industrial control systems just because some geek tells them it doesn't require giving money to a boomer in Redmond that they never cared less about. https://youtu.be/ru3gH27Fn6E https://youtu.be/ru3gH27Fn6E ] Maybe try Godot and see what you can put together over the holidays! If you don't, be someone else will..
guerby 2y ago
Rust strikes again :) "The project is fully developed in the Rust programming language, from the backend API server to the CLI tools to a completely new frontend. The frontend is built on the new widget toolkit that we developed over the last few years. This offers a more modern web user interface experience, not only in terms of appearance and functionality, but also in terms of accessibility, speed, and compatibility."

30 points by LorenDB 2y ago

gregatragenet3 2y ago

Have to login to see any of the screenshots

mdaniel 2y ago
https://bugmenot.com/view/forum.proxmox.com https://bugmenot.com/view/forum.proxmox.com to the rescue (the rh8dohgnoidr username worked for me) https://imgur.com/a/8jmfHVB https://imgur.com/a/8jmfHVB are the two screenshots from the first post One will want to avoid using $(git clone --recursive) since they have a bogus url in their .gitmodules https://git.proxmox.com/?p=proxmox-datacenter-manager.git;a=blob;f=.gitmodules;h=43988880fb5b4c6f844fc7ad3ca78ac0f75d71eb;hb=HEAD#l6 https://git.proxmox.com/?p=proxmox-datacenter-manager.git;a=...
- tlamponi 2y ago
  > since they have a bogus url in their .gitmodules Fixed just now.
  - mdaniel 2y ago
    Does that work for you in your CI or what? fatal: remote error: access denied or repository not exported: /rust/proxmox-api-types and I tried the https flavor, just in case, with the same outcome fatal: repository 'https://git.proxmox.com/rust/proxmox-api-types/' not found
    - tlamponi 2y ago
      Argh, I had a borked test, sorry! Now fixed the second module too and did a fresh clone in a fresh, isolated directory to confirm it really works now.

stackskipton 2y ago

Looks like it's getting hugged to death.

deleted 2y ago

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robinhoodexe 2y ago

This link seems to work: https://www.proxmox.com/en/about/press-releases/proxmox-datacenter-manager-alpha https://www.proxmox.com/en/about/press-releases/proxmox-data...

tlamponi 2y ago

It's an early alpha; the bigger news hidden within is our new Rust/Yew based web framework called proxmox-yew-widget-toolkit [0], it will allow us to move away from ExtJS (where the backing company seemingly forgot that they used to be open source) and go full in on Rust in the frontend too; it really is a breath of fresh air! https://git.proxmox.com/?p=ui/proxmox-yew-widget-toolkit.git;a=tree https://git.proxmox.com/?p=ui/proxmox-yew-widget-toolkit.git... If you got any question feel free to ask.

oddly 2y ago
Really interesting, thanks for letting us know. There hasn't been a lot of new about this (not that I've been looking that long), is there a place to follow up on these developments, a roadmap of sorts? Edit: Misread, thought this was about the "normal" Proxmox web UI. Any plans to make that Rust based?
- tlamponi 2y ago
  > is there a place to follow up on these developments, a roadmap of sorts? For PDM there is a roadmap [0] for the new widget toolkit there isn't such a single documents, but an initial whitepaper (well simple markdown-formatted text to provide some background and examples). For development, you can follow on the mailing lists [1] or use our public inbox interface [2] for them, yew-devel is for the web framework/widget toolkit and pdn-devel is for, well, PDM. > Any plans to make that Rust based? Spelled out, detailed and actionable plan? No. On the long-term roadmap? Yes, definitively. [0]: https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Proxmox_Datacenter_Manager_Roadmap https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Proxmox_Datacenter_Manager_Road... [1]: https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo [2]: https://lore.proxmox.com/ https://lore.proxmox.com/
vaxman 2y ago
"It's 1990, time to get ugly. [Pre-Chorus 2] Should be a crime to be that ugly." https://youtu.be/CroETQY51J4 https://youtu.be/CroETQY51J4 Just for the record, you cannot go in my headset with that UX [Kids who have been playing with Proxmoxx for the past decade face serious competitive threats from a new generation that will NOT recommend product$ that look like 1980s industrial control systems just because some geek tells them it doesn't require giving money to a boomer in Redmond that they never cared less about. https://youtu.be/ru3gH27Fn6E https://youtu.be/ru3gH27Fn6E ] Maybe try Godot and see what you can put together over the holidays! If you don't, be someone else will..

guerby 2y ago

Rust strikes again :) "The project is fully developed in the Rust programming language, from the backend API server to the CLI tools to a completely new frontend. The frontend is built on the new widget toolkit that we developed over the last few years. This offers a more modern web user interface experience, not only in terms of appearance and functionality, but also in terms of accessibility, speed, and compatibility."