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Is this a serious question? a RED camera does not have stereovision and has no other way to retain depth information.

amarshall 2y ago
Both the V-Raptor & Komodo have an RF mount and thus can accept the Canon Dual Fisheye lens. The resolution is a lot lower, and neither sensor is well-matched to the lens’s image circle. The whole point of the Canon Dual Fisheye lens is to record stereoscopic video on a “standard” single sensor camera.
zamadatix 2y ago
"Is this a serious question" is hard to take as anything but an insult. Any actual trolling or the like will naturally sink on HN without the risk of attacking genuinely curious questions. With the example Canon lens approach alberth had linked the device does not need to natively support stereo. The downsides, and why one might still spend 30k on an alternative, is said lens approach effectively halves the sensor area and the optics system won't be quite as well designed as a natively optimized one. Also the device is aimed to match the AVP precisely e.g. 90 FPS at full ~59 MP resolution. I doubt they expect to sell many units but the units they do sell are for top professionals looking for the absolute best stereo quality they could get for the AVP, not for prosumers or average productions which would be fine with the slight quality and workflow bump to save 20k.
- ceejayoz 2y ago
  > "Is this a serious question" is hard to take as anything but an insult. So is "I, as a non-photographer, openly question the utility of this pro-photographer tool to pro-photographers", though.
  - zamadatix 2y ago
    Hmm, I have no trouble finding "Can you not... I'm no photographer but it seems like it'd be tough" type questions as genuine curiosity about an expert field instead. It's certainly possible to interpret it as an insult if one likes, that's often an easy task, but it definitely feels like it's not the only way to interpret the question.
  - spiderice 2y ago
    Hard disagree. A person who is ignorant in a certain subject is allowed to ask questions about that subject in order to learn. > Can you not get this capability with... Can be interpreted as "this is pointless.. you can do this other thing for way cheaper" OR "help me understand why this exists because I don't understand it". GP is _clearly_ in the latter camp and saying "as a non-photographer" to make that clear. Since we're already quoting HN guidelines > Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith
  - rowanG077 2y ago
    Even after they were told it has a ton of value add. It indeed irked me the wrong way and that's why I took that tone.
PaulHoule 2y ago
Lenny Lipton, who developed the RealD system used in theaters today worked on the end-to-end problem of stereo movies in the 1970 used a pair of 8mm cameras hinged together, there were similar rigs used in the 1950s. Today I adjust stereograms so that most objects are close to the paper or screen by sliding them horizontally, but I think Lipton is right that it is better to make the cameras converge though all my stereo cameras are parallel.

Both the V-Raptor & Komodo have an RF mount and thus can accept the Canon Dual Fisheye lens. The resolution is a lot lower, and neither sensor is well-matched to the lens’s image circle. The whole point of the Canon Dual Fisheye lens is to record stereoscopic video on a “standard” single sensor camera.

zamadatix 2y ago

"Is this a serious question" is hard to take as anything but an insult. Any actual trolling or the like will naturally sink on HN without the risk of attacking genuinely curious questions. With the example Canon lens approach alberth had linked the device does not need to natively support stereo. The downsides, and why one might still spend 30k on an alternative, is said lens approach effectively halves the sensor area and the optics system won't be quite as well designed as a natively optimized one. Also the device is aimed to match the AVP precisely e.g. 90 FPS at full ~59 MP resolution. I doubt they expect to sell many units but the units they do sell are for top professionals looking for the absolute best stereo quality they could get for the AVP, not for prosumers or average productions which would be fine with the slight quality and workflow bump to save 20k.

ceejayoz 2y ago
> "Is this a serious question" is hard to take as anything but an insult. So is "I, as a non-photographer, openly question the utility of this pro-photographer tool to pro-photographers", though.
- zamadatix 2y ago
  Hmm, I have no trouble finding "Can you not... I'm no photographer but it seems like it'd be tough" type questions as genuine curiosity about an expert field instead. It's certainly possible to interpret it as an insult if one likes, that's often an easy task, but it definitely feels like it's not the only way to interpret the question.
- spiderice 2y ago
  Hard disagree. A person who is ignorant in a certain subject is allowed to ask questions about that subject in order to learn. > Can you not get this capability with... Can be interpreted as "this is pointless.. you can do this other thing for way cheaper" OR "help me understand why this exists because I don't understand it". GP is _clearly_ in the latter camp and saying "as a non-photographer" to make that clear. Since we're already quoting HN guidelines > Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith
- rowanG077 2y ago
  Even after they were told it has a ton of value add. It indeed irked me the wrong way and that's why I took that tone.

PaulHoule 2y ago

Lenny Lipton, who developed the RealD system used in theaters today worked on the end-to-end problem of stereo movies in the 1970 used a pair of 8mm cameras hinged together, there were similar rigs used in the 1950s. Today I adjust stereograms so that most objects are close to the paper or screen by sliding them horizontally, but I think Lipton is right that it is better to make the cameras converge though all my stereo cameras are parallel.