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All programmable mice store their settings on the device itself, like Roccat and Razer. A true programmable mouse doesn't need software running in the backgroun

All programmable mice store their settings on the device itself, like Roccat and Razer. A true programmable mouse doesn't need software running in the background. A configuration application that needs to continue running is now just a background service running in user mode and not a true configuration application. Roccat user because of the size of the mouse is bigger than others and all the buttons can be reprogrammed, along with the wheel. No background software needed and all configuration changes are OS independent. Not a Logitech user because the wheel could not be programmed to control the sound volume. Last time I tried their products. Even contacted their support to verify the wheel, most useful for controlling audio, is fixed to page scrolling only. Razer mice are too small for my hands and I feel like an Eagle clawing at a minnow. At least they allow for fully reprogramming all the buttons and wheel, unlike Logitech. And you don't need background software for the programming with it being OS independent after programming. Only bad part is that Roccat is no longer Linux supported. The original developer that reverse engineered stop supporting the products. Roccat also is like most business and blows off 1st party support for Linux. Windows VM is needed just to program the mouse, which only done once.

ajolly 2y ago
Logitech has an on board memory manager app, it's a single executable portable no install needed that changes the settings directly on your mouse and then terminates.
bayindirh 2y ago
> because the wheel could not be programmed to control the sound volume. If that's your biggest gripe with Logitech, then I can say they're pretty successful. Personally, I'd not prefer to reach to my mouse just for volume, but everyone is to their own. > A true programmable mouse doesn't need software running in the background. Logitech Mice doesn't need the application to run in the background. I'm using my G700's profiles (which I set once under Windows) under Linux without any tools for (checks notes) 14 years at this point. > Windows VM is needed just to program the mouse, which only done once. How this is different from Logitech devices? It's exactly the same with Logitech.
- vladvasiliu 2y ago
  Logitech G mice dont need the app, but regular ones do. My Mx master 3s and Mx ergo reset to the default sensitivity and button functions if I leave them alone for a while.
  - bayindirh 2y ago
    That's interesting, thanks for the information. I don't use any apps with my M705s (yes, I have a couple). The user I was replying to was giving examples of mice which are in the same class with Logitech G series, this is why I directly quoted my experience with G700.
    - fuzzfactor 2y ago
      >reset to the default sensitivity and button functions if I leave them alone for a while. I need to try that. Mine is USB wired with no battery. I've got one of the lesser G USB 6-button "gaming" RGBs that was unused for well over a year. Never did try any Logi Windows apps or do any gaming either. Used as a mild-mannered office mouse instead :) A while back I started using it again, this time on a Linux PC and it still glowed with the default pattern which I had never changed. Fine by me. Then started dual booting Windows 11 and all was well until I connected to the internet, the Logitech firmware on the mouse got autoupdated, and lights out :( Still glows during POST but LEDs go out unless Windows kicks it back on in some way or another. You want it to do what it once was doing without an app? Your Windows 11 may already be updated far enough itself to give RGB control now. Otherwise you can use the Logitech app. Which doesn't have a Linux version. Looks like mine needs a background app of some kind now if I want glowing again. Oh well. Still looking forward to trying Solaar when I get back to that particular desktop :)
      - hnuser123456 2y ago
        Some of the mice have a toggleable on-board memory mode, where you can configure profiles that are saved on the mouse. You may be able to change the default lighting pattern back.

ajolly 2y ago

Logitech has an on board memory manager app, it's a single executable portable no install needed that changes the settings directly on your mouse and then terminates.

bayindirh 2y ago

> because the wheel could not be programmed to control the sound volume. If that's your biggest gripe with Logitech, then I can say they're pretty successful. Personally, I'd not prefer to reach to my mouse just for volume, but everyone is to their own. > A true programmable mouse doesn't need software running in the background. Logitech Mice doesn't need the application to run in the background. I'm using my G700's profiles (which I set once under Windows) under Linux without any tools for (checks notes) 14 years at this point. > Windows VM is needed just to program the mouse, which only done once. How this is different from Logitech devices? It's exactly the same with Logitech.

vladvasiliu 2y ago
Logitech G mice dont need the app, but regular ones do. My Mx master 3s and Mx ergo reset to the default sensitivity and button functions if I leave them alone for a while.
- bayindirh 2y ago
  That's interesting, thanks for the information. I don't use any apps with my M705s (yes, I have a couple). The user I was replying to was giving examples of mice which are in the same class with Logitech G series, this is why I directly quoted my experience with G700.
  - fuzzfactor 2y ago
    >reset to the default sensitivity and button functions if I leave them alone for a while. I need to try that. Mine is USB wired with no battery. I've got one of the lesser G USB 6-button "gaming" RGBs that was unused for well over a year. Never did try any Logi Windows apps or do any gaming either. Used as a mild-mannered office mouse instead :) A while back I started using it again, this time on a Linux PC and it still glowed with the default pattern which I had never changed. Fine by me. Then started dual booting Windows 11 and all was well until I connected to the internet, the Logitech firmware on the mouse got autoupdated, and lights out :( Still glows during POST but LEDs go out unless Windows kicks it back on in some way or another. You want it to do what it once was doing without an app? Your Windows 11 may already be updated far enough itself to give RGB control now. Otherwise you can use the Logitech app. Which doesn't have a Linux version. Looks like mine needs a background app of some kind now if I want glowing again. Oh well. Still looking forward to trying Solaar when I get back to that particular desktop :)
    - hnuser123456 2y ago
      Some of the mice have a toggleable on-board memory mode, where you can configure profiles that are saved on the mouse. You may be able to change the default lighting pattern back.