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The real story is animal ag creates the conditions for selection for more virulent pandemic viruses (and antibiotic resistant bacteria through overuse of the ch
by 2lazy2pwdmgr 2y ago
The real story is animal ag creates the conditions for selection for more virulent pandemic viruses (and antibiotic resistant bacteria through overuse of the chemically-identical antibiotics given to humans) and yet we don't take the actions necessary to prevent them.
- chrisco255 2y agoIf it's a virus, then antibiotics have no effect.
- lokar 2y agoI don’t think the comment confused them. Two different and serious problems caused by the same conditions and practices.
- fnordpiglet 2y agoIn fact you could argue antibiotics allows much denser farms and proportionately more viral transmission and therefore more mutation.
- fasa99 2y agoWell we do take actions i.e. https://www.unmc.edu/healthsecurity/transmission/2024/07/10/nearly-1-8-million-chickens-will-be-culled-in-the-latest-bird-flu-outbreak-at-a-colorado-poultry-farm/ https://www.unmc.edu/healthsecurity/transmission/2024/07/10/... Literally killing millions of livestock to isolate the spread. Not to say there aren't better ways. Life finds a way. It's hard.
- 2lazy2pwdmgr 2y agoThat's ineffective action to enable the industry to continue rather than ending it and doing something less dangerous that won't kill millions. Not all motion is progress :rocking horse photo here: - One of Meta's "motivational" posters
- AlexandrB 2y agoWhile you're right, I suspect having the price of meat increase 2-5x will mean that whoever pushes for the elimination of factory farming won't be in power for long enough to "make it stick".
- alfiedotwtf 2y agoPlus, people won’t let authorities know their livestock is infected until it spreads further
- Terr_ 2y ago"If my neighbor is affected too, then they won't be able to undercut me in price later..." Even if that scenario is very rare, it's interesting to think of how dramatically these discussions would change if we had perfect forensic knowledge for tracing the complex blame/liability.
- tiahura 2y agoThe real story is that bird flu has already completely spread across the country and there’s _1_ serious case.
- sundaeofshock 2y agoAt one point in 2019, there was just 1 serious case of Covid 19.
- ifyoubuildit 2y agoWas that before or after spreading across the whole country?
- tiahura 2y agoAt that point, it hadn’t spread and there were already tons of serious cases.
- Aloisius 2y agoAnimal agriculture isn't really required. Just humans coming into contact with animals or droppings will do. See: HIV, SARS, Zika, MARV, etc. Clearly the solution is to exterminate all other species.
- giarc 2y agoWe are trying our best.
- lalalali 2y agoOn progress. 96% achieved for the first opponent group : https://ourworldindata.org/wild-mammals-birds-biomass https://ourworldindata.org/wild-mammals-birds-biomass Round 2 versus insects or viruses?
- fransje26 2y agoWe are also on target with our fight against them pesky insects. https://www.dw.com/en/munich-study-confirms-severe-decline-in-insect-populations-in-germany/a-51052955 https://www.dw.com/en/munich-study-confirms-severe-decline-i...