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> I haven't seen Anora so I'll give you that one It was literally the first movie in that list. You tried making a counter example and the first part of it wa

by dartos 2y ago

> I haven't seen Anora so I'll give you that one It was literally the first movie in that list. You tried making a counter example and the first part of it was already wrong. That’s the point. Not that it _cant_ give good answers, but whether it does or not is a crap shoot. Now to analyze how correct it was we need to verify each movie it gave… It’d be faster just to read the movie descriptions.

glenstein 2y ago
You're still trying to imply that the list as a whole is as inaccurate as that one particular example. And I think that's quite obviously not the case, most, probably every other example on the list is just fine.
- dartos 2y ago
  I’m saying that because of the one incorrect example, I can’t just assume that the rest are accurate. I now need to either trust a machine that I know gives incorrect information (as demonstrated by the first example) or I need to verify each example. > probably every other example on the list is just fine. Why don’t you check IMDb and let me know? While you’re at it, don’t think about how much faster it would’ve been if you just looked up popular recent movies on IMDb or rotten tomatoes.
- kbelder 2y ago
  For comparisons, Wikipedia's opening paragraph for Anora reads: "Anora is a 2024 American comedy-drama film written, directed, and edited by Sean Baker. It follows the beleaguered marriage between Anora (Mikey Madison), a young sex worker, and Vanya Zakharov (Mark Eydelshteyn), the son of a Russian oligarch. The supporting cast includes Yura Borisov, Karren Karagulian, Vache Tovmasyan, and Aleksei Serebryakov." I haven't seen the film, but it doesn't seem incompatible with ChatGPT's briefer description.
  - dartos 2y ago
    You see the issue here, right? Instead of just checking with a first party source, you ask a statistical guessing machine for an answer. There was a disagreement about the answer, so we needed to dig deeper. You bring up Wikipedia, a 3rd party source of information. That description could also be wrong (it’s probably not, but stick with me) Instead of just checking with a first party source (IMDb is very easy to search on), we went through several layers of obfuscation. This was an issue for Wikipedia early on, but it has citations, at least. AI doesn’t and doesn’t have an army of people constantly fact checking every answer generated either. There’s no benefit to asking AI for information like this. Especially since the in flight summary has accurate information that’s more than “drama, sex worker, cony island” Maybe something like perplexity is better, since it has citations, but I haven’t tried it for very long yet.
jenniferCrawdad 2y ago
I _have_ seen Anora and I think that description is perfectly fine. It certainly isn't "hallucinations and nonsense" which is what the parent comment is claiming. What part of that description do you consider "wrong"?

by dartos 2y ago

glenstein 2y ago

You're still trying to imply that the list as a whole is as inaccurate as that one particular example. And I think that's quite obviously not the case, most, probably every other example on the list is just fine.

dartos 2y ago
I’m saying that because of the one incorrect example, I can’t just assume that the rest are accurate. I now need to either trust a machine that I know gives incorrect information (as demonstrated by the first example) or I need to verify each example. > probably every other example on the list is just fine. Why don’t you check IMDb and let me know? While you’re at it, don’t think about how much faster it would’ve been if you just looked up popular recent movies on IMDb or rotten tomatoes.
kbelder 2y ago
For comparisons, Wikipedia's opening paragraph for Anora reads: "Anora is a 2024 American comedy-drama film written, directed, and edited by Sean Baker. It follows the beleaguered marriage between Anora (Mikey Madison), a young sex worker, and Vanya Zakharov (Mark Eydelshteyn), the son of a Russian oligarch. The supporting cast includes Yura Borisov, Karren Karagulian, Vache Tovmasyan, and Aleksei Serebryakov." I haven't seen the film, but it doesn't seem incompatible with ChatGPT's briefer description.
- dartos 2y ago
  You see the issue here, right? Instead of just checking with a first party source, you ask a statistical guessing machine for an answer. There was a disagreement about the answer, so we needed to dig deeper. You bring up Wikipedia, a 3rd party source of information. That description could also be wrong (it’s probably not, but stick with me) Instead of just checking with a first party source (IMDb is very easy to search on), we went through several layers of obfuscation. This was an issue for Wikipedia early on, but it has citations, at least. AI doesn’t and doesn’t have an army of people constantly fact checking every answer generated either. There’s no benefit to asking AI for information like this. Especially since the in flight summary has accurate information that’s more than “drama, sex worker, cony island” Maybe something like perplexity is better, since it has citations, but I haven’t tried it for very long yet.

jenniferCrawdad 2y ago

I _have_ seen Anora and I think that description is perfectly fine. It certainly isn't "hallucinations and nonsense" which is what the parent comment is claiming. What part of that description do you consider "wrong"?