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>do you honestly expect Americans to do well in a world where we aren't the preeminent military and economic power? we wouldn't. it's therefore the moral respon
by saturn8601 2y ago
>do you honestly expect Americans to do well in a world where we aren't the preeminent military and economic power? we wouldn't. it's therefore the moral responsibility of the US federal government to ensure that world doesn't come to pass by any means necessary.
You do raise an interesting thought experiment. A word that has passed the US by. It is so difficult to fathom. The Chinese people seem to be producing wonders as evidenced by this recent interview with Asianomoetry[1]: https://youtu.be/pE3KKUKXcTM?t=2019 https://youtu.be/pE3KKUKXcTM?t=2019
They took an old node and managed to squeeze more out of it than any of the western firms could do. This is some serious talent and skill. Its also making me think the sanctions are backfiring in some regard.
However the Chinese system is on shaky ground. Their demographics are horrendous and immigration to plug the gaps is not likely. Furthermore can their system really tolerate failure and embarrassment? This is one aspect where the USSR really fell short and the US shines. Accepting Failure is tolerated, its part of the US culture whereas the USSR was obsessed with saving face. China seems to really understand rapid iteration well though. They studied and learned from the mistakes of the USSR.
>i'm not saying this will come without some level of pain for America. the nineties clinton "end of history" types were buffoons to think china was anything but a malignancy on the international order and should have cut her out from the start. but it's too late for that now, the cancer has spread and this means global economic chemo. it will hurt, but it's massively less bad than what our people would experience in the alternative situation.
Is it really even possible to keep the 17.7% of the world population from aspiring to be at the top while trying to preserve the wealth of 4% of the worlds population? That dam was going to break regardless of whatever the neoliberals did in the 90s.
Hell the global south are the majority and they are kept from reaching to the top quintile. Its just seems inevitable.
- _bin_ 2y agoyou're right, the system is on somewhat shaky ground. many semi- or fully-developed nations face demographic challenges but china is in a much worse position to handle them than we are. but that doesn't mean it's the time to get complacent. now is the time to push harder, knock out a few more legs out from under the chinese system, do that every year until it falls over. they can aspire all they want. the issue is when they attempt to do so to the detriment of Americans. there are some scarce resources that will only ever be enjoyed by the people in that top quintile. it is both the practical and moral obligation of the U.S. government to ensure we, not they, remain in that top quintile and secure scarce resources for our own people before any others. the global south may contain the majority of sets of hands, but the west continues to control the lion's share of human capital, wealth, and military equipment. we ought to continue using those to maintain them. there's no issue with the wealth of everyone growing as the world improves. but we must continue to secure those critical scarce resources for our own first, and that requires that even if the south grows in wealth, we exert all available power and influence to ensure we grow faster. second place sucks. since there will always be a second place, it's our job to avoid it at all costs.