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> surely sending a torrent of unnecessary telemetry data back to Logitech To give Logitech some credit, there's an off switch for "diagnostic data" right there
by LeoPanthera 2y ago
> surely sending a torrent of unnecessary telemetry data back to Logitech
To give Logitech some credit, there's an off switch for "diagnostic data" right there in the settings.
- bigfishrunning 2y agoIf they want more credit, they should make it an on switch
- rizky05 2y ago[dead]
- ghjfrdghibt 2y agoI think it's implicit that a switch has to be on/off. Do you mean opt-in rather than opt-out?
- ziddoap 2y agoNot parent, but yes. A switch that must be turned on (opt-in), rather than a switch that must be turned off (opt-out).
- bdavbdav 2y agoThat would imply there’s a third, indeterminate state prior to opting one way or another (which is the ideal situation - ask on install with a non defaulted option)
- teddyh 2y agoA master programmer passed a novice programmer one day. The master noted the novice’s preoccupation with a hand‐held computer game. “Excuse me”, he said, “may I examine it?” The novice bolted to attention and handed the device to the master. “I see that the device claims to have three levels of play: Easy, Medium and Hard”, said the master. “Yet every such device has another level of play, where the device seeks not to conquer the human, nor to be conquered by the human.” “Pray, great master”, implored the novice, “how does one find this mysterious setting?” The master dropped the device to the ground and crushed it underfoot. And suddenly the novice was enlightened. — The Tao of Programming, Geoffrey James
- loloquwowndueo 2y agoNo, prior to opting the state is off. This is what opt-in means. Asking on install just gives room to implement a dark pattern and trick people into opting in undesiredly anyway. Or you can just use Solaar :) and don’t feel bad about it, you already gave Logitech money for the freaking mouse.
- II2II 2y agoA reasonable third, and default, state could be collect diagnostic data locally. The user can choose to send the diagnostic data if they have issues with the device. After all, the term diagnostic data implies that it is being used for troubleshooting.
- moogly 2y agoI think, today, that state is the "Remind me later' button state.
- shiroiushi 2y agoFor even more credit, they should leave all the extra telemetry and other crap out of the download, so it's only a megabyte or so, instead of 150MB, and let people opt-in to downloading that junk.
- RussianCow 2y agoYou're assuming most of that space is taken up by telemetry software. 100MB of that could easily just be the UI toolkit!
- c0balt 2y agoiirc they shipped an electron app the last time I used it on Windows. The 150 MB are likely just 30% Chrome, 40% graphics (their UI is fancy and has images of connected components) and, 10% bundled js code.
- ChoGGi 2y agoLast time I looked at Corsair they had a DLL for each device, it added up.
- bb88 2y agoWhat's wrong with using the UI the OS provides?
- baby_souffle 2y agoNot cross platform, difficult to theme or style to Logitech brand guidelines?
- bb88 2y agoDo the users care about that? Or just the management? And mouse drivers aren't typically cross platform anyway, right?
- AyyEye 2y agoAn off switch that will get ignored for some data, re-enabled on some future update anyway, and forgotten about next time you reinstall.