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Anybody with any sort of ambition will display those in some shape Edit: idk really, but toxic/fake positivity is not helpful in a competitve env, and to sales

Anybody with any sort of ambition will display those in some shape Edit: idk really, but toxic/fake positivity is not helpful in a competitve env, and to sales is just lying/over promising

trescenzi 2y ago
See Douglas Adams’ quote about electing leaders: > anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.
- WalterBright 2y ago
  Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others. -- Winston Churchill
  - drewcoo 2y ago
    Churchill said "_it has been said that_ democracy is the worst form of Government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time," so Churchill himself acknowledged that the quote wasn't his.
MrMcCall 2y ago
> Anybody with any sort of ambition will display those in some shape There's an important difference between ambition for selfish gain and ambition to better help others. > but toxic/fake positivity is not helpful in a competitve env That's why I counsel real positivity that comes from having tuned one's moral compass towards compassion, or at least trying to. As to competitive environs, we would be much less wasteful and destructive if we cooperated instead of competing. > sales is just lying/over promising Merlin explained in Excalibur that honesty is the most important virtue via, "When a man lies, he murders some part of the world."
- WalterBright 2y ago
  > As to competitive environs, we would be much less wasteful and destructive if we cooperated instead of competing. The communist countries have some of the most polluted areas on the planet. > There's an important difference between ambition for selfish gain and ambition to better help others. Everybody is selfish. The beauty of the free market is it enables selfish behavior to help others. All attempts at creating selfless societies have resulted in misery and poverty.
  - MrMcCall 2y ago
    > The communist countries have some of the most polluted areas on the planet. They were not cooperating, my friend, they were manifesting a ruling class that was above the law and pillaged the land for personal gain and sometimes even for the state. > Everybody is selfish. We are only as selfish as we choose to be, likewise our sense of ethics is only as developed as the virtues we embrace. Yes, we begin life selfish and most of our cultures are selfishly oriented towards others, but these are all the result of the citizens' choices. And, yes, our beliefs are chosen as well, and are as adaptable as we like. > The beauty of the free market is it enables selfish behavior to help others. I would say, rather, that the free market is good at letting people act selfishly, for either good or ill. That's why I like my capitalism with fetters, plenty of fetters. But, yeah, capitalism that doesn't destroy the powerless is the best path forward. > All attempts at creating selfless societies have resulted in misery and poverty. No, most humans that say they're creating selfless societies are really just grifters who want to be the new royalty. Selfishness always results in misery on some level, for some person or persons. We can develop systems that reward those who innovate and improve our life on Earth, without jeopardizing our environment and the peace among people. We could choose that, my friend. The problem is that most people don't care enough about others to be generous. We could each choose to learn how to be virtuous and then dedicate ourselves to helping implement a compassionate, sensible, and sustainable world society. All that's holding us back is our unwillingness to admit we each have the ability to be a part of the solution, as opposed to our currently sadass status quo.
    - WalterBright 2y ago

Anybody with any sort of ambition will display those in some shape Edit: idk really, but toxic/fake positivity is not helpful in a competitve env, and to sales is just lying/over promising

trescenzi 2y ago

See Douglas Adams’ quote about electing leaders: > anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.

WalterBright 2y ago
Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others. -- Winston Churchill
- drewcoo 2y ago
  Churchill said "_it has been said that_ democracy is the worst form of Government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time," so Churchill himself acknowledged that the quote wasn't his.

MrMcCall 2y ago

> Anybody with any sort of ambition will display those in some shape There's an important difference between ambition for selfish gain and ambition to better help others. > but toxic/fake positivity is not helpful in a competitve env That's why I counsel real positivity that comes from having tuned one's moral compass towards compassion, or at least trying to. As to competitive environs, we would be much less wasteful and destructive if we cooperated instead of competing. > sales is just lying/over promising Merlin explained in Excalibur that honesty is the most important virtue via, "When a man lies, he murders some part of the world."

WalterBright 2y ago
> As to competitive environs, we would be much less wasteful and destructive if we cooperated instead of competing. The communist countries have some of the most polluted areas on the planet. > There's an important difference between ambition for selfish gain and ambition to better help others. Everybody is selfish. The beauty of the free market is it enables selfish behavior to help others. All attempts at creating selfless societies have resulted in misery and poverty.
- MrMcCall 2y ago
  > The communist countries have some of the most polluted areas on the planet. They were not cooperating, my friend, they were manifesting a ruling class that was above the law and pillaged the land for personal gain and sometimes even for the state. > Everybody is selfish. We are only as selfish as we choose to be, likewise our sense of ethics is only as developed as the virtues we embrace. Yes, we begin life selfish and most of our cultures are selfishly oriented towards others, but these are all the result of the citizens' choices. And, yes, our beliefs are chosen as well, and are as adaptable as we like. > The beauty of the free market is it enables selfish behavior to help others. I would say, rather, that the free market is good at letting people act selfishly, for either good or ill. That's why I like my capitalism with fetters, plenty of fetters. But, yeah, capitalism that doesn't destroy the powerless is the best path forward. > All attempts at creating selfless societies have resulted in misery and poverty. No, most humans that say they're creating selfless societies are really just grifters who want to be the new royalty. Selfishness always results in misery on some level, for some person or persons. We can develop systems that reward those who innovate and improve our life on Earth, without jeopardizing our environment and the peace among people. We could choose that, my friend. The problem is that most people don't care enough about others to be generous. We could each choose to learn how to be virtuous and then dedicate ourselves to helping implement a compassionate, sensible, and sustainable world society. All that's holding us back is our unwillingness to admit we each have the ability to be a part of the solution, as opposed to our currently sadass status quo.
  - WalterBright 2y ago