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Agreed except for this comment. > parts of the ceremonial law are still valid Westminster Confession 19.3: “All which ceremonial laws are now abrogated, unde

Agreed except for this comment. > parts of the ceremonial law are still valid Westminster Confession 19.3: “All which ceremonial laws are now abrogated, under the new testament.” The reason the ceremonial law is abrogated is because it pointed forward to Christ who was to come. But since Christ has come, retaining the ceremonial law is tantamount to denying Christ (see full text of WCF 19.3 and book of Hebrews). If you were thinking of the link between baptism and circumcision, remember that God gave the covenant promise and sign to Abraham 430 years before Moses (Gen 17, Gal 3:17), so circumcision predates the law.

marky1991 2y ago
Interesting, the confession considers 'remember the sabbath' to be 'moral law', not ceremonial, also 19.3 . Thanks for the reminder!
- ARandomerDude 2y ago
  Exactly right. One way to know the Sabbath is moral rather than ceremonial is the Sabbath was established in Genesis 2:1-3. That means the Sabbath pre-dates the Law, and even pre-dates sin. So Adam and Eve would have kept the Sabbath before the Fall, and so would have all their posterity if they had never fallen. As confirmation of that idea, Exodus 20:11 states that the reason God gives the fourth commandment is because the Sabbath is a creation ordinance, and by implication is therefore moral. I hope that helps! God bless.
  - NemoNobody 2y ago
    Adam and Eve had no conception of the Sabbath - they never worked or labored for anything prior to leaving the garden. God walked and talked with them daily, whenever apparently - what need for their to be to recognize that which is accessible and available all the days. What purpose would a God have at all for the life inside his creations to set aside 1/7 of their time "for him" anyways? Lots of silly, silly stuff people say God thinks
    - ARandomerDude 2y ago
      Genesis 2:15 ESV The LORD God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to work it and keep it.
    - batch12 2y ago
      It's important to remember that the sabbath was a gift to man from God per Jesus Mark 2:27 NIV [27] Then he said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.
NemoNobody 2y ago
All the law was ended by Jesus and replaced by The Greatest Commandment, as it is the only law that we need. To follow every law within the Bible except that one is to fail to follow Jesus - to follow only that law and none of the others is fine by him according to his own words. Speaking any law as higher than the law laid down by the Son of God himself is denying Christ.

marky1991 2y ago

Interesting, the confession considers 'remember the sabbath' to be 'moral law', not ceremonial, also 19.3 . Thanks for the reminder!

ARandomerDude 2y ago
Exactly right. One way to know the Sabbath is moral rather than ceremonial is the Sabbath was established in Genesis 2:1-3. That means the Sabbath pre-dates the Law, and even pre-dates sin. So Adam and Eve would have kept the Sabbath before the Fall, and so would have all their posterity if they had never fallen. As confirmation of that idea, Exodus 20:11 states that the reason God gives the fourth commandment is because the Sabbath is a creation ordinance, and by implication is therefore moral. I hope that helps! God bless.
- NemoNobody 2y ago
  Adam and Eve had no conception of the Sabbath - they never worked or labored for anything prior to leaving the garden. God walked and talked with them daily, whenever apparently - what need for their to be to recognize that which is accessible and available all the days. What purpose would a God have at all for the life inside his creations to set aside 1/7 of their time "for him" anyways? Lots of silly, silly stuff people say God thinks
  - ARandomerDude 2y ago
    Genesis 2:15 ESV The LORD God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to work it and keep it.
  - batch12 2y ago
    It's important to remember that the sabbath was a gift to man from God per Jesus Mark 2:27 NIV [27] Then he said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.

NemoNobody 2y ago

All the law was ended by Jesus and replaced by The Greatest Commandment, as it is the only law that we need. To follow every law within the Bible except that one is to fail to follow Jesus - to follow only that law and none of the others is fine by him according to his own words. Speaking any law as higher than the law laid down by the Son of God himself is denying Christ.