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Not soon, it seems. Nvidia is so far ahead that they're artificially limiting their 4090's to half speed to fill a market niche. https://x.com/realGeorgeHotz/s

Not soon, it seems. Nvidia is so far ahead that they're artificially limiting their 4090's to half speed to fill a market niche. https://x.com/realGeorgeHotz/status/1868356459542770087 https://x.com/realGeorgeHotz/status/1868356459542770087

metadat 2y ago
Is there a possible way to unblow the fuse? I imagine it depends on the type of e-fuse used. The Athlon XP pencil trick probably won't work, haha. Curious if anyone has more information. Fascinating, I had no idea this was even a thing. Simultaneously badass team green is far ahead and also a bummer to be artificially limited / segmented. I wonder if the upcoming 5090 core will mostly be a fuse-intact 4090. I imagine nearly all of NVs current focus is on H200 and Blackwell and whatever else is in the pipeline rather than these "silly" little gamer cards which bring in comparably trivial financial resources. /me *cries a tear*
- dheera 2y ago
  Also interested in this ...
- Jimmc414 2y ago
  Mixed messages on that answer, but I'd like to know as well. https://x.com/cognitivecompai/status/1868399108924592391 https://x.com/cognitivecompai/status/1868399108924592391 https://x.com/cognitivecompai/status/1868401738706993301 https://x.com/cognitivecompai/status/1868401738706993301 From my research it seems that restoring full GPU capabilities by repairing or circumventing a deliberately blown eFuse on an NVIDIA AD102 die is, for all practical purposes, impossible.
- talldayo 2y ago
  > Is there a possible way to unblow the fuse? Maybe, but it's also possible that it wouldn't do anything. Other Nvidia boards (like the Tegra in the Switch) also come with arbitrarily disabled "dark silicon", but enabling the extra SOC hardware only causes the board to crash when using everything at once. It wouldn't surprise me if this was a binning measure, even though I also wouldn't be surprised if it was an arbitrary limit.
mdavidn 2y ago
I assumed this was to make GPUs more affordable for users with gaming use cases in mind.
- shikon7 2y ago
  No, it is to make GPUs more expensive for users with professional use cases in mind.
- Culonavirus 2y ago
  In a way... I can actually see this as fair. What's the difference between the 4090 rtx and the 6000 ada? 5x the price for 2x the memory? Ridiculous. But then you have to factor in all the R&D dollars Nvidia poured into their compute/non-graphics ecosystem which now easily eclipses the gaming one, probably by a factor of 10 or more, and suddenly it doesn't seem so ridiculous. You either a) don't get 4090 level of a graphics card anymore... or b) you do get it, but only if it's nerfed for non-graphics uses... Nvidia wants its big R&D bucks back (and then some) and its gonna get em
varelse 2y ago
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metadat 2y ago

Is there a possible way to unblow the fuse? I imagine it depends on the type of e-fuse used. The Athlon XP pencil trick probably won't work, haha. Curious if anyone has more information. Fascinating, I had no idea this was even a thing. Simultaneously badass team green is far ahead and also a bummer to be artificially limited / segmented. I wonder if the upcoming 5090 core will mostly be a fuse-intact 4090. I imagine nearly all of NVs current focus is on H200 and Blackwell and whatever else is in the pipeline rather than these "silly" little gamer cards which bring in comparably trivial financial resources. /me *cries a tear*

dheera 2y ago
Also interested in this ...
Jimmc414 2y ago
Mixed messages on that answer, but I'd like to know as well. https://x.com/cognitivecompai/status/1868399108924592391 https://x.com/cognitivecompai/status/1868399108924592391 https://x.com/cognitivecompai/status/1868401738706993301 https://x.com/cognitivecompai/status/1868401738706993301 From my research it seems that restoring full GPU capabilities by repairing or circumventing a deliberately blown eFuse on an NVIDIA AD102 die is, for all practical purposes, impossible.
talldayo 2y ago
> Is there a possible way to unblow the fuse? Maybe, but it's also possible that it wouldn't do anything. Other Nvidia boards (like the Tegra in the Switch) also come with arbitrarily disabled "dark silicon", but enabling the extra SOC hardware only causes the board to crash when using everything at once. It wouldn't surprise me if this was a binning measure, even though I also wouldn't be surprised if it was an arbitrary limit.

mdavidn 2y ago

I assumed this was to make GPUs more affordable for users with gaming use cases in mind.

shikon7 2y ago
No, it is to make GPUs more expensive for users with professional use cases in mind.
Culonavirus 2y ago
In a way... I can actually see this as fair. What's the difference between the 4090 rtx and the 6000 ada? 5x the price for 2x the memory? Ridiculous. But then you have to factor in all the R&D dollars Nvidia poured into their compute/non-graphics ecosystem which now easily eclipses the gaming one, probably by a factor of 10 or more, and suddenly it doesn't seem so ridiculous. You either a) don't get 4090 level of a graphics card anymore... or b) you do get it, but only if it's nerfed for non-graphics uses... Nvidia wants its big R&D bucks back (and then some) and its gonna get em

varelse 2y ago

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