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I stopped taking amphetamine stimulants for similar reasons and with a similar outcome. I ended up getting a prescription for Provigil (modafinil), a non-amphe

I stopped taking amphetamine stimulants for similar reasons and with a similar outcome. I ended up getting a prescription for Provigil (modafinil), a non-amphetamine stimulant. It’s not nearly as dopaminergic as amphetamine, decidedly non-euphoric, but more motivationally stimulating than caffeine. I found that the dose response lends itself well to former addicts, where taking the recommended dosage (100mg for me) does not result in a “high” nor does taking 3-4x that dosage, and is quite unpleasant to do so. As well as being long lived, a single dose lasting 10-12 hours, not a time release formulation mind you, reduces the moreish hunger of short duration stimulants.

gperkins978 2y ago
I take provigil as well. I was wise enough to stop taking Adderall and Dexedrine when I ended my schooling. I never had a prescription, but these were easy enough to find. Provigil is not an every day tool for me, only once and a while, but it gets the job done.
mettamage 2y ago
How do you get a prescription for that? Is that an ADHD med?
- alphan0n 2y ago
  My psychiatrist recommended it. I was around two years out from quitting a daily 60mg Vyvanse habit and still having a rough time. Unmotivated, brain fog, depressed, etc. Effexor caused suicidal ideation, Strattera was too abusable, Wellbutrin worked ok at first but caused hives when I increased the dose to the recommended level. Modafinil is more commonly prescribed for narcolepsy, or shift work sleep disorder, requiring a sleep study. But allows for off-label use at doctors discretion. It has a fairly low addiction profile, which I was suspicious of given my history, but I don’t feel the need to take it every day, and usually abstain on weekends. I also tried Nuvigil (armodafinil), which works similarly but for longer and at a lower dose. But it was a bit jagged, and overkill, I don’t need 16 hours of stimulation.
swah 2y ago
That did nothing for me - I kinda theorize it can't compete with my caffeine usage ie I would have to drop caffeine to restart at a baseline of sorts... (Or I just got powder..)
- alphan0n 2y ago
  I’ve read numerous anecdotal accounts that espouse this. Not discounting yours at all, as the precise mechanism of action of modafinil is not well understood despite decades of human testing [0][1]. From my limited understanding, it increases histamine, the effect opposite of anti-histamines like diphenhydramine. [0]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15991923/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15991923/ [1]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22640618/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22640618/ Anecdotally, despite being a very subtle effect, in my specific set of circumstances, modafinil has been life changing.
  - ipaddr 2y ago
    If all it is doing is adding histamine could you get it from food?
    - alphan0n 2y ago
      Presumably, modafinil causes production and continual release of histamine via mast cells in quantities far greater and faster than the most histamine rich foods. Fermented fish tops the list, which, personally, sounds profoundly unappealing for breakfast. But to each their own, maybe a cup of coffee and a can of surströmming is the ultimate morning combo

gperkins978 2y ago

I take provigil as well. I was wise enough to stop taking Adderall and Dexedrine when I ended my schooling. I never had a prescription, but these were easy enough to find. Provigil is not an every day tool for me, only once and a while, but it gets the job done.

mettamage 2y ago

How do you get a prescription for that? Is that an ADHD med?

alphan0n 2y ago
My psychiatrist recommended it. I was around two years out from quitting a daily 60mg Vyvanse habit and still having a rough time. Unmotivated, brain fog, depressed, etc. Effexor caused suicidal ideation, Strattera was too abusable, Wellbutrin worked ok at first but caused hives when I increased the dose to the recommended level. Modafinil is more commonly prescribed for narcolepsy, or shift work sleep disorder, requiring a sleep study. But allows for off-label use at doctors discretion. It has a fairly low addiction profile, which I was suspicious of given my history, but I don’t feel the need to take it every day, and usually abstain on weekends. I also tried Nuvigil (armodafinil), which works similarly but for longer and at a lower dose. But it was a bit jagged, and overkill, I don’t need 16 hours of stimulation.

swah 2y ago

That did nothing for me - I kinda theorize it can't compete with my caffeine usage ie I would have to drop caffeine to restart at a baseline of sorts... (Or I just got powder..)

alphan0n 2y ago
I’ve read numerous anecdotal accounts that espouse this. Not discounting yours at all, as the precise mechanism of action of modafinil is not well understood despite decades of human testing [0][1]. From my limited understanding, it increases histamine, the effect opposite of anti-histamines like diphenhydramine. [0]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15991923/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15991923/ [1]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22640618/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22640618/ Anecdotally, despite being a very subtle effect, in my specific set of circumstances, modafinil has been life changing.
- ipaddr 2y ago
  If all it is doing is adding histamine could you get it from food?
  - alphan0n 2y ago
    Presumably, modafinil causes production and continual release of histamine via mast cells in quantities far greater and faster than the most histamine rich foods. Fermented fish tops the list, which, personally, sounds profoundly unappealing for breakfast. But to each their own, maybe a cup of coffee and a can of surströmming is the ultimate morning combo