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Fuck no. There is NO effort at all here to go after surveillance capitalism, I don't give a shit what their press releases say about "protecting American's priv
by ToucanLoucan 2y ago
Fuck no. There is NO effort at all here to go after surveillance capitalism, I don't give a shit what their press releases say about "protecting American's privacy." It's straight horseshit. The biggest offenders to American's privacy are squarely in Silicon Valley, and the only companies that ever end up in the Government's crosshairs are the big scary Chinese ones that are gonna use their algorithms to turn you into a communist or whatever the fuck.
And FWIW to anyone in power who happens to read this, I was plenty radicalized by my own experiences and those of my friends under capitalism. China didn't do shit.
- pixl97 2y agoThis is a pretty poor take. Whoever is getting the information is going to use it for their benefit. The Chinese government is a scary government, this does not take away from or add to the US government being a scary government.
- ToucanLoucan 2y agoYou're correct, and banning TikTok and/or TP-Link is not going to stem the flow of user data to the companies who sell it, not even a little bit. Hence my comment: this is not about protecting anyone's privacy, it's about keeping American tech companies on top.
- iszomer 2y agoI wouldn't be surprised if some (American) corporate lobbying was performed for this to be pushed through this way but given the numerous stories of how the CCP have practically _bullied_ their way into our markets with cheap(er) goods and/or services through state-sponsored subsidies, I would imagine that this is becoming the global response to a long-winded draw-down on the lessons of repercussions and self-reliance.
- i_love_retros 2y ago[flagged]
- kube-system 2y agoThey commit genocide, don't support the same values as I do, and are hostile to the government of the country I live in, as well as many of the organizations within it. And a bunch of other things.
- throwaway48476 2y agoFentanyl is the new opium war.
- i_love_retros 2y agoI could ask a Chinese person and their response could be exactly the same and still valid. Perhaps more valid.
- kube-system 2y agoI would imagine. /shrug
- _bin_ 2y agogenerally speaking when a country is #1 in the world order and another country is hellbent on claiming that spot, the latter is a threat to the former. china has repeatedly pushed us militarily, economically, and diplomatically. we must regard with animosity any nation with conflicting values and a desire to outstrip us in power and influence. America is not safe until the current regime is deposed and the strength of china is crippled.
- ToucanLoucan 2y agoOh good, more international interventions on the horizon. Because those have worked out so bloody well the past... I dunno, 12 times or so? And good fucking luck "crippling" the strength of a nation who's population comprises 17% of the world's population, and who is basically a stand-in for "overseas manufacturing" due the sheer ubiquity of it.
- eqvinox 2y agoI agree with you on content but unfortunately you're communicating it very poorly. 1 notch down on the bile?
- ToucanLoucan 2y agoApologies, Jingoistic nonsense that parrots talking points about actual problems that need solutions, in this case, reigning in user data collection in service of protectionism for precious American companies to continue their unethical behavior makes me puke.
- reaperducer 2y agoApologies, Jingoistic nonsense that parrots talking points about actual problems that need solutions, in this case, reigning in user data collection in service of protectionism for precious American companies to continue their unethical behavior makes me puke. It could be a GIRD or acid reflux condition. Civil discussions online shouldn't cause vomiting. You should probably see a doctor about that.
- archagon 2y agoI think it’s a better written and more earnest comment than most I see on this site.
- taco_emoji 2y agoI completely disagree, I appreciate the passion. Please stop treating your personal aesthetic preferences as objective.
- zamadatix 2y agoToucanLoucan's message has some great discussion points but the half of the thread doing something useful with them only got there by managing to ignore the "fuck no shit horseshit fuck shit" portions. Even if one labels that as an aesthetic choice over one core to what promotes quality online conversation, fulmination isn't a requirement of conveying passion.
- maxerickson 2y agoWasn't there a thing about the government wanting Google to divest something? Chrome?