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Kenya was in Africa last I checked. American blacks tend to be (mainly; averaging 83%) Bantu, whereas Barack Obama is (half) Nilote. http://www.google.com/sea

Kenya was in Africa last I checked. American blacks tend to be (mainly; averaging 83%) Bantu, whereas Barack Obama is (half) Nilote. http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aisteve.blogspot.com+nilotic http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aisteve.blogspot.com+ni... http://isteve.blogspot.com/2008/01/east-africas-tall-vs-average-war.html http://isteve.blogspot.com/2008/01/east-africas-tall-vs-aver... The tall black Nilotics generally see themselves as more intelligent than the shorter brown Bantus. Obama's Luo relatives in Kenya told him: "The Luo are intelligent but lazy." The Bantus tend to fear that they will be outsmarted by the Nilotics if they give them a fair shake, so they often treat the tall people like the Jews tend to be treated in Eastern Europe. The dividing lines between the Nilotics and Bantus are not sharp. There's been lots of interbreeding. (This is Africa, after all.) But, they still exist. The situation is rather like that in Latin American, where after five centuries of interbreeding, the economic elites are still pretty white-looking, and the indigenous masses occasionally organize under demagogues like Hugo Chavez to fight back.

thomasmallen 18y ago
I'm disgusted that they would use a term like "interbreeding" as though they were referring to animals. The correct word is "miscegenation."
- opticksversi 18y ago
  as though they were referring to animals Are humans not animals?
  - thomasmallen 18y ago
    By "animals," I mean that one would only use the term "interbreeding" when referring to wild or domesticated animals mating. It's an inherently zoologic term, much like the word "mating."
    - opticksversi 18y ago
      interbreeding" [is] an inherently zoologic term From where did you get that idea? http://www.google.com/search?q=%22racial+interbreeding%22 http://www.google.com/search?q=%22racial+interbreeding%22 1,750 hits. . It's an inherently zoologic term, much like the word "mating." http://www.google.com/search?q=%22human+matings%22 http://www.google.com/search?q=%22human+matings%22 1390 hits. http://www.google.com/search?q=%22humans+mate%22 http://www.google.com/search?q=%22humans+mate%22 3,370 hits.
      - thomasmallen 18y ago
        And the first result for the second search has the title, "Can humans mate with other animals?" I rest my case. Edit: Also, Google result tallies for individual search terms is crap evidence, just so you know. If you're going to gather evidence from the interwebs, at least try somewhat. Here's what I came up with: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscegenation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscegenation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbreeding http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbreeding (redirects to the "Hybrid (biology)" article!)
        opticksversi 18y ago
        From where did you get the idea that interbreeding is an inherently zoologic term? Dictionaries do not seem to mention any such zoological inherency.
        opticksversi 18y ago
        Here's what I came up with: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscegenation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscegenation . Wikipedia also has an article in inbreeding depression, which discusses inbreeding among humans: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inbreeding_depression#In_humans http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inbreeding_depression#In_humans In humans Although severe inbreeding depression in humans seems to be highly uncommon and not widely known, there have been several cases of apparent forms of inbreeding depression in human populations. As with animals, this phenomenon tends to occur in isolated, rural populations that are cut off to some degree from other areas of civilization. Some notable examples include: The Vadoma tribe of western Zimbabwe, many of whom carry the trait of having only two toes due to a small gene pool. The Ulas family of southern Turkey have several members who walk on all fours, due to mental retardation caused by inbreeding.
- graemep 18y ago
  Which has racist overtones
  - thomasmallen 18y ago
    Since when does "miscegenation" have racist overtones? It's a very common term in history and sociology and is the accepted term to refer to the mixing of races. It's certainly better than "interbreeding."

thomasmallen 18y ago

I'm disgusted that they would use a term like "interbreeding" as though they were referring to animals. The correct word is "miscegenation."

opticksversi 18y ago
as though they were referring to animals Are humans not animals?
- thomasmallen 18y ago
  By "animals," I mean that one would only use the term "interbreeding" when referring to wild or domesticated animals mating. It's an inherently zoologic term, much like the word "mating."
  - opticksversi 18y ago
    interbreeding" [is] an inherently zoologic term From where did you get that idea? http://www.google.com/search?q=%22racial+interbreeding%22 http://www.google.com/search?q=%22racial+interbreeding%22 1,750 hits. . It's an inherently zoologic term, much like the word "mating." http://www.google.com/search?q=%22human+matings%22 http://www.google.com/search?q=%22human+matings%22 1390 hits. http://www.google.com/search?q=%22humans+mate%22 http://www.google.com/search?q=%22humans+mate%22 3,370 hits.
    - thomasmallen 18y ago
      And the first result for the second search has the title, "Can humans mate with other animals?" I rest my case. Edit: Also, Google result tallies for individual search terms is crap evidence, just so you know. If you're going to gather evidence from the interwebs, at least try somewhat. Here's what I came up with: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscegenation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscegenation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbreeding http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbreeding (redirects to the "Hybrid (biology)" article!)
      - opticksversi 18y ago
        From where did you get the idea that interbreeding is an inherently zoologic term? Dictionaries do not seem to mention any such zoological inherency.
      - opticksversi 18y ago
        Here's what I came up with: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscegenation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscegenation . Wikipedia also has an article in inbreeding depression, which discusses inbreeding among humans: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inbreeding_depression#In_humans http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inbreeding_depression#In_humans In humans Although severe inbreeding depression in humans seems to be highly uncommon and not widely known, there have been several cases of apparent forms of inbreeding depression in human populations. As with animals, this phenomenon tends to occur in isolated, rural populations that are cut off to some degree from other areas of civilization. Some notable examples include: The Vadoma tribe of western Zimbabwe, many of whom carry the trait of having only two toes due to a small gene pool. The Ulas family of southern Turkey have several members who walk on all fours, due to mental retardation caused by inbreeding.
graemep 18y ago
Which has racist overtones
- thomasmallen 18y ago
  Since when does "miscegenation" have racist overtones? It's a very common term in history and sociology and is the accepted term to refer to the mixing of races. It's certainly better than "interbreeding."