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The weird thing for me here is why it is relevant that it's an electric car, at the end of the day the failure was with the engineering of the suspension, nothi
by ge0 2y ago
The weird thing for me here is why it is relevant that it's an electric car, at the end of the day the failure was with the engineering of the suspension, nothing to do with the way that it is powered. This could have happened with any vehicle, this article seems to be click baiting on the fact that the model was an EV.
- thfuran 2y agoElectric vehicles are very heavy, which means a lot of mechanical stress for the suspension. And any rate, if a particular EV model was what's affected, why not specify that?
- bloggie 2y agoI'm not sure about that, my electric vehicle weighs about a ton less than a Mustang.
- qup 2y agoIs it a skateboard? Mustangs aren't even 2 tons. An ~1800-lb limit, to be a ton less than a mustang, doesn't give you much room to make a full-size vehicle. A prius is over 3,000 lbs.
- mikestew 2y agoEven if it is a skateboard, it is still heavier than a non-electric skateboard. As GP said, electric vehicles are very heavy. My electric bike weighs considerably more than non-electric bikes, our electric scooters weigh more than kick scooters, and parent is being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.
- hombre_fatal 2y agoQuibble: Electric vehicle weight is compared to the ICE alternatives. You’re comparing electric vehicles to things without motors at all
- neogodless 2y agohttps://www.cjponyparts.com/resources/mustang-curb-weights https://www.cjponyparts.com/resources/mustang-curb-weights 2024 Mustang curb weight is 3588 - 3949 lbs. So you're suggesting you drive an EV that weighs approximately 1588 - 1949 lbs. Which EV is that? https://www.topspeed.com/lightest-electric-cars/ https://www.topspeed.com/lightest-electric-cars/ At least in the U.S., the lightest EV starts at 2952 lbs (Fiat 500e). https://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/at-1627-pounds-the-vazirani-ekonk-is-the-lightest-ev-cver/ https://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/at-1627-pounds-the-va... There is at least one EV that is light enough, though I suspect it is not your daily driver.
- ben_w 2y agoNot OP, but also not US. The Dacia Spring is available around here (Berlin), and while it's a bit more than that mass, it's close enough to be "about" a ton lighter.
- neogodless 2y agoLooks like 2300 lbs but if you're comparing base trims that's 1200 lbs lighter than the base Mustang. A bit of a stretch for "about". And also a nonsensical comparison. Different purposes, different class of vehicle, different regulatory / safety requirements.
- brookst 2y agoThen your electric car is exceptional. A mustang weighs about 3,600 pounds. Which is heavy to be sure. But lighter than almost all electric cars. Certainly not a ton heavier. Tesla model 3: 3900 pounds Tesla model S: 4700 pounds Chevy bolt: 3600 pounds Nissan Leaf: 3900 pounds Volkswagen ID4: 4600 pounds EVs are heavy. I’d be interested in your 2600 pound EV.
- qup 2y ago2024 Toyota Camry - 3595lbs So is the mustang heavy? Compared to what?
- brookst 2y agoMustang is a big heavy GT style car. It has heavy engines, a wide body, big tires, etc. A 2-door mini cooper is 2600 pounds. A Nissan Versa is about the same. For larger cars, the Elantra and Civic are both less than 3000 pounds.
- nhecker 2y agoA Mitsubishi I-MiEV at 2268 LB (3329 LB GVWR - 661 LB vehicle capacity weight) isn't a ton lighter than a Ford Mustang, but it's on the lighter side for an EV. Source: my I-MiEV owner's manual
- sib 2y ago>> Electric vehicles are very heavy, which means a lot of mechanical stress for the suspension Not necessarily - as an example: Tesla Model 3 Standard: 3,862 lbs (1755 kg) Tesla Model 3 Long Range: 4,034 lbs (1834 kg) Tesla Model 3 Performance: 4,054 lbs (1843 kg) BMW M3: 3,990 lbs (1814 kg) These are effectively the same weight for comparably-positioned sports sedans.
- constantcrying 2y agoThis comparison is stupid. It is just 3 versions of one car and one version of another car. The broad trend that electric cars are heavier and need to be designed differently than combustion cars is undeniable.
- xethos 2y agoI'd still say that it's motor vehicles in general that are getting bigger and heavier. The unfair comparison (Mazda CX-9 SUV) has an ICE vehicle weighing in heavier, but even my small-by-modern-standards Mazda 3 Sport is <200kg from the base Tesla Model 3. Lighter, but not dramatically so. Same with the Ford Mustang fastback (~3600lbs), and the ragtop is even chunkier (at ~3700lbs). EVs might have started heavier, but it's modern vehicles that are heavy more than EVs. Sure, you can point to the OEMs that brute-forced their way into the market (the Hummer springs to mind), but the truly preposterous are, fortunately, small in number.
- sib 2y ago>> This comparison is stupid. It is just 3 versions of one car and one version of another car. Huh? Why is it a stupid comparison? It is comparing the Model 3 (very popular EV) against a similarly-positioned ICE vehicle. I showed three trims of the Model 3 in order to avoid people saying, "yeah, but you didn't post the weights of all the different versions..." GP said simply "Electric vehicles are very heavy" - that means all EVs. Not some EVs. So showing a comparable pair of EV & ICE vehicles to disprove it is a completely reasonable comparison.
- constantcrying 2y ago
- jeroenhd 2y agoSame reason phone headlines always mention branding when they're iPhones: more people click on headlines like that. In this case one could argue that it's relevant because no ICE models had this flaw, but I'm not convinced this wasn't done to make money off the EV/anti-EV flame wars that are happening online every day.
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