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> It's not that their government is particularly bad, it's their culture that is particularly bad. Well we were talking about the government being bad, so are

> It's not that their government is particularly bad, it's their culture that is particularly bad. Well we were talking about the government being bad, so are you agreeing with me here or disagreeing? > To give you some idea: Japan still thinks metaverse is the bleeding edge of tech and wants to become its leader. Also more fundamentally, Japan thinks they can become the leader in the "AI" industry despite literally only being a consumer and not a producer. When you say "Japan thinks", do you mean government, bureaucrats, and some dinosaur corporations? Because I assure you western governments and non-US corporations all over the world think they can become leaders in "AI". It was only a few years ago that incompetent bureaucrats in major western cities finally gave up talking about using blockchain technology to make their cities run better. > Note: I'm Japanese(-American), I will take every justifiable opportunity to shit on my fellow people because they deserve it. You're looking specifically at the computer technology field where USA is an outlier that does well, so I'm not sure you have the necessary perspective. Though even USA has big failures there, the loss of semiconductor manufacturing leadership and attempts by government to prop it up, for a topical example. > Japanese persons are some of the most clever, skilled, innovative bunch of gentlemen that humanity has ever known, but Japanese people are some of the most closed-minded, incompetent, bass ackwards bunch of misfits that humanity has ever known. I assure you this is what many westerners (including or probably I should say particularly Americans) think about their government and people at large.

Dalewyn 2y ago
>Well we were talking about the government being bad, so are you agreeing with me here or disagreeing? Government is merely an expression of the underlying society and culture. >When you say "Japan thinks", do you mean government, bureaucrats, and some dinosaur corporations? Yes and also all the others. >You're looking specifically at the computer technology field where USA is an outlier that does well, Japan has gained the throne of countless industries and then squandered them time and time again. I'm not merely speaking of IT or industrial electronics, which they also gained the thrones of and then squandered. Among other things: Consumer electronics (eg: mobile phones, TVs, etc.), household appliances, cars, aviation/aeronautics, medicine, pop culture (eg: anime, video games, music, etc.), and more. Consider that Japan literally owns the CPU architecture found in practically every mobile device (Softbank owns ARM) and they can't figure out how to fucking succeed. Japan's proud tradition of clutching failure from the jaws of success are rooted in problems with their very culture itself.
- starspangled 2y ago
  > Government is merely an expression of the underlying society and culture. That didn't answer the question though, it didn't address the discussion of the thread you replied to. > Yes and also all the others. Okay, well that's no different from other countries then. > Japan has gained the throne of countless industries and then squandered them time and time again. I'm not merely speaking of IT or industrial electronics, which they also gained the thrones of and then squandered. Same old story everywhere else then. Britain was once the textile manufacturing powerhouse of the world. USA once made the best automobiles. > Among other things: Consumer electronics (eg: mobile phones, TVs, etc.), household appliances, cars, aviation/aeronautics, medicine, pop culture (eg: anime, video games, music, etc.), and more. Many examples of such things in countries everywhere. > Consider that Japan literally owns the CPU architecture found in practically every mobile device (Softbank owns ARM) and they can't figure out how to fucking succeed. ARM is doing pretty well. It's the object of desire of Nvidia, Apple, China, Qualcomm, and more. Between x86 and riscv and its warring customers it does find itself in a competitive and difficult environment to be sure. Not sure what you mean there. > Japan's proud tradition of clutching failure from the jaws of success are rooted in problems with their very culture itself. I'm still not seeing what's special about Japan here. Things rise and fall. Phones? Finland had Nokia and messed that up so badly it's laughable. Canada had BlackBerry and did the same. Chinese companies haven't been able to beat out Apple and Samsung... Japan makes some good stuff. Cars, motorbikes, engines, electronics, video games, sensors, lenses, cameras, machinery and tools.

Dalewyn 2y ago

>Well we were talking about the government being bad, so are you agreeing with me here or disagreeing? Government is merely an expression of the underlying society and culture. >When you say "Japan thinks", do you mean government, bureaucrats, and some dinosaur corporations? Yes and also all the others. >You're looking specifically at the computer technology field where USA is an outlier that does well, Japan has gained the throne of countless industries and then squandered them time and time again. I'm not merely speaking of IT or industrial electronics, which they also gained the thrones of and then squandered. Among other things: Consumer electronics (eg: mobile phones, TVs, etc.), household appliances, cars, aviation/aeronautics, medicine, pop culture (eg: anime, video games, music, etc.), and more. Consider that Japan literally owns the CPU architecture found in practically every mobile device (Softbank owns ARM) and they can't figure out how to fucking succeed. Japan's proud tradition of clutching failure from the jaws of success are rooted in problems with their very culture itself.

starspangled 2y ago
> Government is merely an expression of the underlying society and culture. That didn't answer the question though, it didn't address the discussion of the thread you replied to. > Yes and also all the others. Okay, well that's no different from other countries then. > Japan has gained the throne of countless industries and then squandered them time and time again. I'm not merely speaking of IT or industrial electronics, which they also gained the thrones of and then squandered. Same old story everywhere else then. Britain was once the textile manufacturing powerhouse of the world. USA once made the best automobiles. > Among other things: Consumer electronics (eg: mobile phones, TVs, etc.), household appliances, cars, aviation/aeronautics, medicine, pop culture (eg: anime, video games, music, etc.), and more. Many examples of such things in countries everywhere. > Consider that Japan literally owns the CPU architecture found in practically every mobile device (Softbank owns ARM) and they can't figure out how to fucking succeed. ARM is doing pretty well. It's the object of desire of Nvidia, Apple, China, Qualcomm, and more. Between x86 and riscv and its warring customers it does find itself in a competitive and difficult environment to be sure. Not sure what you mean there. > Japan's proud tradition of clutching failure from the jaws of success are rooted in problems with their very culture itself. I'm still not seeing what's special about Japan here. Things rise and fall. Phones? Finland had Nokia and messed that up so badly it's laughable. Canada had BlackBerry and did the same. Chinese companies haven't been able to beat out Apple and Samsung... Japan makes some good stuff. Cars, motorbikes, engines, electronics, video games, sensors, lenses, cameras, machinery and tools.