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Sure! If you've encountered some then please share!

by AndrewDucker 2y ago

InfiniteLoup 2y ago
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- AndrewDucker 2y ago
  Nope! I'm just interested in what a fellow HNer has found, if they're interested in sharing. That's why I have discussions on HN, so I can learn from others with more knowledge than me!
- zarzavat 2y ago
  Even if your theory is correct that the entire academic establishment in the US is conspiring to mislead people, how do you explain research outside the US?
- Hikikomori 2y ago
  Just going to leave us hanging and not share your forbidden knowledge?
- ripped_britches 2y ago
  Out of Africa way predates DEI. Are you saying this is a 1980s conspiracy?
  - zo1 2y ago
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    - Cthulhu_ 2y ago
      DEI is a term used by a vague group of people to vilify certain media, or in this particular case, push an anti-science narrative claiming DEI is used in an anti-scientific fashion. It does not allow anyone that questions it to be called racist per se, but the questioning itself is just unsubstantiated and vague. This comment chain started with someone claiming contradictory evidence is not considered; where is this contradictory evidence? I mean sure, if there is an effective suppression campaign going on then said evidence would be gone, but surely there'd be whistleblowers and first hand accounts of scientific oppression and the like? If not, it's more effective than e.g. North Korea's regime in keeping information hidden, and like the moon landings, hundreds of thousands of people would be complicit. Which would be really interesting.
      - DiogenesKynikos 2y ago
        DEI does exist at universities, but the idea that human evolutionary biologists let their research be directed by DEI concerns is ridiculous. The whole out-of-Africa vs. multiregional debate played out over many years between different research groups, and what ultimately settled it was DNA evidence that heavily favored the out-of-Africa hypothesis. With more data and more findings, it's become clear that modern humans do have some DNA from different populations outside Africa, but out of Africa is still basically correct.
- enkid 2y ago
  You think the study of archeology, anthropology, genetics, and ecology across the entire Western academic system is being subverted to support DEI using a theory that existed long before the time "DEI" was a known acronym? And you can't provide evidence?
- Cthulhu_ 2y ago
  > that has an obligation to advance DEI efforts in order to receive grants in the first place, Nah they don't. Anti-"DEI" billionaires like Elon Musk are free to likewise fund research or create "free speech" universities if they so choose. But they choose not to. You sound like you're pushing a theory that anthropology is biased, what do you have to back that claim up?

Sure! If you've encountered some then please share!

InfiniteLoup 2y ago

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AndrewDucker 2y ago
Nope! I'm just interested in what a fellow HNer has found, if they're interested in sharing. That's why I have discussions on HN, so I can learn from others with more knowledge than me!
zarzavat 2y ago
Even if your theory is correct that the entire academic establishment in the US is conspiring to mislead people, how do you explain research outside the US?
Hikikomori 2y ago
Just going to leave us hanging and not share your forbidden knowledge?
ripped_britches 2y ago
Out of Africa way predates DEI. Are you saying this is a 1980s conspiracy?
- zo1 2y ago
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  - Cthulhu_ 2y ago
    DEI is a term used by a vague group of people to vilify certain media, or in this particular case, push an anti-science narrative claiming DEI is used in an anti-scientific fashion. It does not allow anyone that questions it to be called racist per se, but the questioning itself is just unsubstantiated and vague. This comment chain started with someone claiming contradictory evidence is not considered; where is this contradictory evidence? I mean sure, if there is an effective suppression campaign going on then said evidence would be gone, but surely there'd be whistleblowers and first hand accounts of scientific oppression and the like? If not, it's more effective than e.g. North Korea's regime in keeping information hidden, and like the moon landings, hundreds of thousands of people would be complicit. Which would be really interesting.
    - DiogenesKynikos 2y ago
      DEI does exist at universities, but the idea that human evolutionary biologists let their research be directed by DEI concerns is ridiculous. The whole out-of-Africa vs. multiregional debate played out over many years between different research groups, and what ultimately settled it was DNA evidence that heavily favored the out-of-Africa hypothesis. With more data and more findings, it's become clear that modern humans do have some DNA from different populations outside Africa, but out of Africa is still basically correct.
enkid 2y ago
You think the study of archeology, anthropology, genetics, and ecology across the entire Western academic system is being subverted to support DEI using a theory that existed long before the time "DEI" was a known acronym? And you can't provide evidence?
Cthulhu_ 2y ago
> that has an obligation to advance DEI efforts in order to receive grants in the first place, Nah they don't. Anti-"DEI" billionaires like Elon Musk are free to likewise fund research or create "free speech" universities if they so choose. But they choose not to. You sound like you're pushing a theory that anthropology is biased, what do you have to back that claim up?