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> Captain Asoh was the last to leave, and returned to the plane after ensuring everyone was safely ashore to gather and return the passengers' personal belongin

> Captain Asoh was the last to leave, and returned to the plane after ensuring everyone was safely ashore to gather and return the passengers' personal belongings. > A language barrier between Captain Asoh, who spoke little English, and his American copilot, Joseph Hazen, was also partially to blame, as the pair attempted to use a new instrument landing system for the first time. But at the NTSB investigation, Asoh chose not to blame any of those factors or make any excuses. When asked what went wrong, he simply replied, “As you Americans say … I f--ked up.” Talk about being responsible for ones actions. This man is a model.

bluGill 2y ago
> pair attempted to use a new instrument landing system for the first time This is the real root cause: insufficient training. They should have both used the system before in training situations on a nice day when they can look out the window if they don't understand something. Unless they are test pilots for the maker of the landing system (which they were not because this was not a test situation) they should have had a qualified trainer teach them how to use the system and plenty of hours of in the simulators using this system in situations much harder than the one they encountered.
- cozzyd 2y ago
  Did simulators exist in 1968?
  - bluGill 2y ago
    Yes. Not as good as today but they existed. They also had instructors
- MisterTea 2y ago
  > insufficient training Indeed this is a fuck up. However I did not see it mentioned anywhere in the article that there were any training requirements in place. Perhaps both pilots assumed that the instruments would be similar to what they were used to and were confident they could read/operate it. Another thing is I don't like how the article does not mention this missing fact and the take away of Asoh's admission of guilt is a management lesson to admit mistakes. Instead, from this fact I had predicted it to be: Airline management should take responsibility for allowing two unqualified pilots to fly that aircraft. There was no process in place to ensure that pilots are qualified to fly the aircraft they are piloting full of people.
  - bluGill 2y ago
    In the year this happened we were not as strict about training. They should have had more but it wasn't common. saddly this lesson still hasn't been learned about driving.

bluGill 2y ago

> pair attempted to use a new instrument landing system for the first time This is the real root cause: insufficient training. They should have both used the system before in training situations on a nice day when they can look out the window if they don't understand something. Unless they are test pilots for the maker of the landing system (which they were not because this was not a test situation) they should have had a qualified trainer teach them how to use the system and plenty of hours of in the simulators using this system in situations much harder than the one they encountered.

cozzyd 2y ago
Did simulators exist in 1968?
- bluGill 2y ago
  Yes. Not as good as today but they existed. They also had instructors
MisterTea 2y ago
> insufficient training Indeed this is a fuck up. However I did not see it mentioned anywhere in the article that there were any training requirements in place. Perhaps both pilots assumed that the instruments would be similar to what they were used to and were confident they could read/operate it. Another thing is I don't like how the article does not mention this missing fact and the take away of Asoh's admission of guilt is a management lesson to admit mistakes. Instead, from this fact I had predicted it to be: Airline management should take responsibility for allowing two unqualified pilots to fly that aircraft. There was no process in place to ensure that pilots are qualified to fly the aircraft they are piloting full of people.
- bluGill 2y ago
  In the year this happened we were not as strict about training. They should have had more but it wasn't common. saddly this lesson still hasn't been learned about driving.