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> The price on the tag, is exactly what you pay (same with services, like hotels). That's the norm, not the exception, in developed countries.

by sofixa 2y ago

Eisenstein 2y ago
Except for the one with the largest economy.
- dghlsakjg 2y ago
  And Canada!
- sofixa 2y ago
  And that's not a point of pride now, is it. If you're the best but others are clearly beating you in a few categories, that's more reasons to improve to try to be the best everywhere, not put your hands in your ears and pretend nothing is wrong.
- floxy 2y ago
  No sales tax in Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire, and Oregon.
- olddustytrail 2y ago
  Congratulations on living in a country where there are many people who are vastly richer than you.
crazygringo 2y ago
No -- it's the norm in countries that have a single uniform VAT. It's obviously not the norm in countries that have sales taxes which vary by locality. Whether a country is "developed" or not has nothing to do with it. The vast majority of countries in Africa have a VAT, while the world's richest country has a sales tax.
- sofixa 2y ago
  > It's obviously not the norm in countries that have sales taxes which vary by locality Why not? If each store or restaurant or theatre or whatever in each locality know what price to bill you, they know the applicable price to show you upfront. > Whether a country is "developed" or not has nothing to do with it. The vast majority of countries in Africa have a VAT, while the world's richest country has a sales tax. The relevance of developed or not is how much of the economy is informal or includes a part of negotiation.
  - crazygringo 2y ago
    > Why not? If each store in each locality know what price to bill you, they know the applicable price to show you upfront. Because it makes state-level or national-level advertising of prices impossible. Or even local-level in many cases. > The relevance of developed or not is how much of the economy is informal or includes a part of negotiation. No it doesn't, where are you getting that? Feel free to browse: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developed_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developed_country and Ctrl+F for "informal" or "negotiation". There are a lot of indicators of developing vs developed countries, but your idea is most assuredly not one of them. Also, sales tax vs VAT has nothing to do with an informal economy or price negotiation either.
    - sofixa 2y ago
      > Because it makes state-level or national-level advertising of prices impossible. Or even local-level in many cases Hardly impossible, just slightly less easy ("available for $X* (pre-tax)" / "starting at $X"). And are seriously claiming that ease for advertisers takes precedence over ease of use and pricing transparency for consumers? > and Ctrl+F for "informal" or "negotiation". There are a lot of indicators of developing vs developed countries, but your idea is most assuredly not one of them. Also, sales tax vs VAT has nothing to do with an informal economy or price negotiation either. Thank you. What I meant was that the only reason it might not be the standard in some developing countries is that they might have more informal economies with more negotiations involved. Literally the only legitimate excuse. But when that's not the case, from Morocco to Sri Lanka to Uzbekistan, price is shown upfront, everything included.

> The price on the tag, is exactly what you pay (same with services, like hotels). That's the norm, not the exception, in developed countries.

by sofixa 2y ago

> The price on the tag, is exactly what you pay (same with services, like hotels). That's the norm, not the exception, in developed countries.

Eisenstein 2y ago

Except for the one with the largest economy.

dghlsakjg 2y ago
And Canada!
sofixa 2y ago
And that's not a point of pride now, is it. If you're the best but others are clearly beating you in a few categories, that's more reasons to improve to try to be the best everywhere, not put your hands in your ears and pretend nothing is wrong.
floxy 2y ago
No sales tax in Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire, and Oregon.
olddustytrail 2y ago
Congratulations on living in a country where there are many people who are vastly richer than you.

crazygringo 2y ago

No -- it's the norm in countries that have a single uniform VAT. It's obviously not the norm in countries that have sales taxes which vary by locality. Whether a country is "developed" or not has nothing to do with it. The vast majority of countries in Africa have a VAT, while the world's richest country has a sales tax.

sofixa 2y ago
> It's obviously not the norm in countries that have sales taxes which vary by locality Why not? If each store or restaurant or theatre or whatever in each locality know what price to bill you, they know the applicable price to show you upfront. > Whether a country is "developed" or not has nothing to do with it. The vast majority of countries in Africa have a VAT, while the world's richest country has a sales tax. The relevance of developed or not is how much of the economy is informal or includes a part of negotiation.
- crazygringo 2y ago
  > Why not? If each store in each locality know what price to bill you, they know the applicable price to show you upfront. Because it makes state-level or national-level advertising of prices impossible. Or even local-level in many cases. > The relevance of developed or not is how much of the economy is informal or includes a part of negotiation. No it doesn't, where are you getting that? Feel free to browse: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developed_country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developed_country and Ctrl+F for "informal" or "negotiation". There are a lot of indicators of developing vs developed countries, but your idea is most assuredly not one of them. Also, sales tax vs VAT has nothing to do with an informal economy or price negotiation either.
  - sofixa 2y ago
    > Because it makes state-level or national-level advertising of prices impossible. Or even local-level in many cases Hardly impossible, just slightly less easy ("available for $X* (pre-tax)" / "starting at $X"). And are seriously claiming that ease for advertisers takes precedence over ease of use and pricing transparency for consumers? > and Ctrl+F for "informal" or "negotiation". There are a lot of indicators of developing vs developed countries, but your idea is most assuredly not one of them. Also, sales tax vs VAT has nothing to do with an informal economy or price negotiation either. Thank you. What I meant was that the only reason it might not be the standard in some developing countries is that they might have more informal economies with more negotiations involved. Literally the only legitimate excuse. But when that's not the case, from Morocco to Sri Lanka to Uzbekistan, price is shown upfront, everything included.