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When someone refers to "The X people", they are referring to the Nationality. Historically citizenship and nationality were interlinked, but they are separate.
by jjk7 2y ago
When someone refers to "The X people", they are referring to the Nationality. Historically citizenship and nationality were interlinked, but they are separate.
"The Irish people inhabit Ireland, as Irish Citizens" is not a tautology.
Nationality does not require race or ethnicity; some nations require common descent (blood quantum). The French people do not have such requirements.
- whatshisface 2y ago>When someone refers to "The X people", they are referring to the Nationality. That's just not true. Here are some counterexamples: - The Kurdish people - The Jewish people - The Burman people Furthermore, "the Irish people" would be not be taken to include a German who moved there.
- jjk7 2y agoModern usage of language has really blurred the lines, and it is confusing. You are confusing 'State' vs 'Nation'. A nation does not need a legal entity to exist. 'Kurdish', 'Jewish', and 'Burman' are the literal names of the nation. Belonging to a nation is amongst the other members to determine, not me. If the Irish people consider an assimilated German to be Irish, so be it. A German who does not assimilate, would likely not be considered an 'an Irish person' but rather an 'Irish Citizen' or more correctly, 'A Citizen of Ireland'.
- whatshisface 2y agoThe Jewish people includes the diaspora, the Jewish state is Israel, and the Jewish nation is something that might have existed before Israel was recognized. A people (singular) is neither a nation nor a state. It's closest to a race or ethnicity. The Kurdish nation might exist, but it doesn't include the diaspora, while the Kurdish people would.