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I can totally understand it! I would loved to have access to a LLM back in time. Especially since I started to learn just after the <table> era but we didn't ha

I can totally understand it! I would loved to have access to a LLM back in time. Especially since I started to learn just after the <table> era but we didn't have "flex" yet. It was true garbage... Now I mostly JSX / tailwind, which is way faster than prompting, but surely because I'm fluent in that thing.

anonzzzies 2y ago
> Now I mostly JSX / tailwind, which is way faster than prompting, Not saying that is not true, but did you measure that actually or is it a feeling or you didn't spend very much time on getting a prompt you can plop your requests in? jsx and tailwind are very verbose ; frontend is mostly very verbose, and, unless you are building LoB apps, you will have to try things a few times. Cerebras and groq with a predefined copy paste prompt will generate all that miserable useless slob (yes, I vehemently hate frontend work; I do hope it will be replaced very soon by llms completely; it's close but not quite there yet) in milliseconds so you can just tweak it a bit. I am fluent at building web frontends since the mid 90s; before I did DOS, windows and motif ones (which was vastly nicer; there you could actually write terse frontend code); I see many companies inside and I have not seen anyone faster at frontend than current llms, so I would like to see a demo. In logic I see many people faster as the llm can often simply not even figure it out even remotely.
- jb_briant 2y ago
  I prompt a lot everyday for various reasons, including, but not exclusively coding. Because jsx/tw is indeed very verbose, it requires a lot of accuracy because there is sooo many places you have to be just perfect, this is something LLM are inherently incapable of. Don't get me wrong, it will output the code faster than me. But overall, i will spend more time prompting + correcting, especially when I want to achieve special designs which are not looking like basic "bootstrap". It's also much less enjoyable to tweak a prompt than just spitting jsx/tw which doesn't require lot of effort for me. I don't have a demo to justify my claim and I'm totally fine if you dismiss my message because of that. I recon that I don't like front ending with LLM yet, maybe one day it will.be much better. My website where I tried some LLM stuff and been disapointed https://ardaria.com https://ardaria.com

anonzzzies 2y ago

> Now I mostly JSX / tailwind, which is way faster than prompting, Not saying that is not true, but did you measure that actually or is it a feeling or you didn't spend very much time on getting a prompt you can plop your requests in? jsx and tailwind are very verbose ; frontend is mostly very verbose, and, unless you are building LoB apps, you will have to try things a few times. Cerebras and groq with a predefined copy paste prompt will generate all that miserable useless slob (yes, I vehemently hate frontend work; I do hope it will be replaced very soon by llms completely; it's close but not quite there yet) in milliseconds so you can just tweak it a bit. I am fluent at building web frontends since the mid 90s; before I did DOS, windows and motif ones (which was vastly nicer; there you could actually write terse frontend code); I see many companies inside and I have not seen anyone faster at frontend than current llms, so I would like to see a demo. In logic I see many people faster as the llm can often simply not even figure it out even remotely.

jb_briant 2y ago
I prompt a lot everyday for various reasons, including, but not exclusively coding. Because jsx/tw is indeed very verbose, it requires a lot of accuracy because there is sooo many places you have to be just perfect, this is something LLM are inherently incapable of. Don't get me wrong, it will output the code faster than me. But overall, i will spend more time prompting + correcting, especially when I want to achieve special designs which are not looking like basic "bootstrap". It's also much less enjoyable to tweak a prompt than just spitting jsx/tw which doesn't require lot of effort for me. I don't have a demo to justify my claim and I'm totally fine if you dismiss my message because of that. I recon that I don't like front ending with LLM yet, maybe one day it will.be much better. My website where I tried some LLM stuff and been disapointed https://ardaria.com https://ardaria.com