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Sounds like 20 years ago when everyone was moving IT to India.

by rapsey 2y ago

verzali 2y ago
I wonder if the presidental candidates of the 2030s will be rallying against AI taking all the jobs.
- kelseyfrog 2y ago
  No, the media will have had at least eight years of feeding us, "This was inevitable. It's how the economy naturally works. This is our new reality. Nothing could have been done."
  - pessimizer 2y ago
    "In a way, this is actually your fault."
  - blooalien 2y ago
    Don't forget the inevitable "Nobody could have predicted..." lie, also (despite a great many folks giving sound and clear warnings).
m00x 2y ago
Boeing all over again
- rapsey 2y ago
  All those big old corps got taken to the cleaners for that. We will see how this AI thing turns out.
  - m00x 2y ago
    Time is a circle. All I know is that I wouldn't use Klarna's products. I work in fintech and the number of mistakes I've seen since devs started relying on AI has accelerated. I use it too, but I'm not an idiot about it.
- smcnally 2y ago
  Among the frightening parts of that is the time and human lives it has taken between Boeing destroying its engineering culture and starting to pay the price for that destruction.
  - RF_Savage 2y ago
    Same with Intel. And once the culture is rotten, things will be very hard to change.
karmajunkie 2y ago
exactly this. it’s why i’m having trouble getting too worked up about the notion of AI replacing all the jobs (though i think it will end up, for a time, reducing the number of early career jobs available, which has its own social ramifications.)
shadowerm 2y ago
I think this is something much more extreme. I work for a healthcare company and an email from a business customer today found its way to me asking if we use or plan on using "AI". The person asking this absolutely makes business decisions and absolutely has no idea what they are talking about. It was clear from the email that all they know is "AI good", "No AI bad". It would be like outsourcing to India if even business that makes absolutely no sense to outsource like restaurants were talking about outsourcing to India for no other reason than "outsourcing good". Of course, not actually doing anything, just the appearance and lip service as to not appear to fall behind the times.
- rapsey 2y ago
  Managers and executives get rewarded for pushing AI and CEOs get punished for not having an AI strategy. It is an epic feedback loop.
- hedora 2y ago
  Multiple fast food companies tried to outsource restaurant workers to india: 2009, Jack in the box: https://www.reddit.com/r/business/comments/7ujy2/jackinthebox_testing_outsourcing_drivethrough/ https://www.reddit.com/r/business/comments/7ujy2/jackinthebo... 2016, McDonalds: https://www.zeebiz.com/companies/news-mcdonalds-to-outsource-jobs-to-india-in-cost-cutting-move-2505 https://www.zeebiz.com/companies/news-mcdonalds-to-outsource...

Sounds like 20 years ago when everyone was moving IT to India.

by rapsey 2y ago

Sounds like 20 years ago when everyone was moving IT to India.

verzali 2y ago

I wonder if the presidental candidates of the 2030s will be rallying against AI taking all the jobs.

kelseyfrog 2y ago
No, the media will have had at least eight years of feeding us, "This was inevitable. It's how the economy naturally works. This is our new reality. Nothing could have been done."
- pessimizer 2y ago
  "In a way, this is actually your fault."
- blooalien 2y ago
  Don't forget the inevitable "Nobody could have predicted..." lie, also (despite a great many folks giving sound and clear warnings).

m00x 2y ago

Boeing all over again

rapsey 2y ago
All those big old corps got taken to the cleaners for that. We will see how this AI thing turns out.
- m00x 2y ago
  Time is a circle. All I know is that I wouldn't use Klarna's products. I work in fintech and the number of mistakes I've seen since devs started relying on AI has accelerated. I use it too, but I'm not an idiot about it.
smcnally 2y ago
Among the frightening parts of that is the time and human lives it has taken between Boeing destroying its engineering culture and starting to pay the price for that destruction.
- RF_Savage 2y ago
  Same with Intel. And once the culture is rotten, things will be very hard to change.

karmajunkie 2y ago

exactly this. it’s why i’m having trouble getting too worked up about the notion of AI replacing all the jobs (though i think it will end up, for a time, reducing the number of early career jobs available, which has its own social ramifications.)

shadowerm 2y ago

I think this is something much more extreme. I work for a healthcare company and an email from a business customer today found its way to me asking if we use or plan on using "AI". The person asking this absolutely makes business decisions and absolutely has no idea what they are talking about. It was clear from the email that all they know is "AI good", "No AI bad". It would be like outsourcing to India if even business that makes absolutely no sense to outsource like restaurants were talking about outsourcing to India for no other reason than "outsourcing good". Of course, not actually doing anything, just the appearance and lip service as to not appear to fall behind the times.

rapsey 2y ago
Managers and executives get rewarded for pushing AI and CEOs get punished for not having an AI strategy. It is an epic feedback loop.
hedora 2y ago
Multiple fast food companies tried to outsource restaurant workers to india: 2009, Jack in the box: https://www.reddit.com/r/business/comments/7ujy2/jackinthebox_testing_outsourcing_drivethrough/ https://www.reddit.com/r/business/comments/7ujy2/jackinthebo... 2016, McDonalds: https://www.zeebiz.com/companies/news-mcdonalds-to-outsource-jobs-to-india-in-cost-cutting-move-2505 https://www.zeebiz.com/companies/news-mcdonalds-to-outsource...