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Express isn't an evaluation version. Also, it's trivially easy to get setup with BizSpark if you're a small startup and get free copies of Visual Studio.

Turing_Machine 14y ago
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/05/no-cost-desktop-software-development-is-dead-on-windows-8/ http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/05/no-cos... No mobile apps, no conventional desktop apps, no command line apps... looks pretty "evaluaty" to me. Also: "private developers will have to pay $49 a year, corporations $99 a year." So, on the one hand we have (from Apple): Xcode (free or $5.00, depending on what kind of mood Apple is in that week) Developer program with store access: $99/year Code-sigining certificate: included. From Microsoft we have: Non-crippled Visual Studio: $499 Developer program with store access: $49-$99/year Code-signing certificates: must be purchased separately from a third party. What a bargain!
- SomeCallMeTim 14y ago
  Sorry, but Microsoft backpedaled after the bad press. You can download Windows 8 development tools for free now. [1] Your info about "no command line apps" is also outdated. It USED to be true, but I have VS2010 Express, and it came with the command line tools: c:\Devel\Msdev.2010\Common7\Tools>vsvars32 vsvars32 Setting environment for using Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 x86 tools. c:\Devel\Msdev.2010\Common7\Tools>cl cl Microsoft (R) 32-bit C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 16.00.40219.01 for 80x86 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. usage: cl [ option... ] filename... [ /link linkoption... ] c:\Devel\Msdev.2010\Common7\Tools> I also use XCode, and it's ... not nearly as good as Visual Studio, though I am liking the new Eclipse-like "compile your code as you're typing it" real time error markup. A friend tells me that XCode can be configured to be sane, but I haven't given it a try yet. [1] http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/br229516 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/br229516

Turing_Machine 14y ago

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/05/no-cost-desktop-software-development-is-dead-on-windows-8/ http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/05/no-cos... No mobile apps, no conventional desktop apps, no command line apps... looks pretty "evaluaty" to me. Also: "private developers will have to pay $49 a year, corporations $99 a year." So, on the one hand we have (from Apple): Xcode (free or $5.00, depending on what kind of mood Apple is in that week) Developer program with store access: $99/year Code-sigining certificate: included. From Microsoft we have: Non-crippled Visual Studio: $499 Developer program with store access: $49-$99/year Code-signing certificates: must be purchased separately from a third party. What a bargain!

SomeCallMeTim 14y ago
Sorry, but Microsoft backpedaled after the bad press. You can download Windows 8 development tools for free now. [1] Your info about "no command line apps" is also outdated. It USED to be true, but I have VS2010 Express, and it came with the command line tools: c:\Devel\Msdev.2010\Common7\Tools>vsvars32 vsvars32 Setting environment for using Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 x86 tools. c:\Devel\Msdev.2010\Common7\Tools>cl cl Microsoft (R) 32-bit C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 16.00.40219.01 for 80x86 Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. usage: cl [ option... ] filename... [ /link linkoption... ] c:\Devel\Msdev.2010\Common7\Tools> I also use XCode, and it's ... not nearly as good as Visual Studio, though I am liking the new Eclipse-like "compile your code as you're typing it" real time error markup. A friend tells me that XCode can be configured to be sane, but I haven't given it a try yet. [1] http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/br229516 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/br229516