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You're confusing us with Cruise. Lots of reporting did the same, but we're expanding a lot across California. For example, now anyone can use our service in Los

by boulos 2y ago

You're confusing us with Cruise. Lots of reporting did the same, but we're expanding a lot across California. For example, now anyone can use our service in Los Angeles: https://waymo.com/blog/2024/11/waymo-one-open-to-all-in-los-angeles https://waymo.com/blog/2024/11/waymo-one-open-to-all-in-los-...

KennyBlanken 2y ago
https://www.the-independent.com/tech/waymo-driverless-taxi-ban-robotaxi-b2500697.html https://www.the-independent.com/tech/waymo-driverless-taxi-b... > One of the world’s first fully-driverless taxi firms has been blocked from expanding its business in California, where several of its vehicles have recently been involved in accidents. > Waymo, which is the driverless car division of Google parent Alphabet, currently operates in parts of San Francisco. Attempts to roll-out its robotaxi service to Sunnyvale and Los Angeles were suspended for up to 120 days following a ruling by the California Public Utilities Commission’s Consumer Protection and Enforcement Division (CPED). Then there's the federal investigation for Arizona crashes: https://www.azfamily.com/2024/05/15/feds-investigating-eight-incidents-involving-waymo-driverless-cars-phoenix-chandler/ https://www.azfamily.com/2024/05/15/feds-investigating-eight... Your cars honking at each other in their own parking lot, at 4AM: https://youtu.be/Xvs0K1LG1ac?t=15 https://youtu.be/Xvs0K1LG1ac?t=15 Your cars getting confused by a traffic cone: https://youtu.be/fMFzs0NZ_Mc?t=55 https://youtu.be/fMFzs0NZ_Mc?t=55 Your cars barely able to make a lane change under the most ideal circumstances: https://youtu.be/spw176TZ7-8?t=95 https://youtu.be/spw176TZ7-8?t=95 Unable to respond to the instructions of a police officer and it taking a minute and a half for employees to manually control the car: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ix98jFVyGxs https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ix98jFVyGxs Blocking a fire truck: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eZMXVaF7Bj8 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eZMXVaF7Bj8 Breaking the law and getting pulled over by police for driving in the oncoming lane: https://youtu.be/7W-VneUv8Gk?t=28 https://youtu.be/7W-VneUv8Gk?t=28 One of your cars cutting off another one of your own cars in a wildly unsafe, illegal maneuver: One of your cars running a red light: https://youtu.be/CHEtQ3Egt0c?t=244 https://youtu.be/CHEtQ3Egt0c?t=244 ...and then a few minutes later, illegally entering an intersection and stopping, then continuing to block the intersection because someone made a u-turn 30 feet in front of it while it was stopped: https://youtu.be/CHEtQ3Egt0c?t=474 https://youtu.be/CHEtQ3Egt0c?t=474 And here's the icing on the cake: your company harassing reporters, calling the police on them because reporters were following it: https://youtu.be/spw176TZ7-8?t=170 https://youtu.be/spw176TZ7-8?t=170
- jjallen 2y ago
  Why do humans get a pass but computers don’t? Why do computers have to be perfect but it’s perfectly legal for humans to kill someone if the sun was in their eyes? Make a list of those stuff for humans every day and it would be gigabytes of records. Almost all goes unpunished.
  - nephanth 2y ago
    My very personal opinion is maybe it shouldn't be ok for humans either. Maybe the benefits of cars absolutely don't outweigh the contant risk of deaths and injuries they pose (especially in metropolitan aeras where they are easily replaced by other modes of transportation) Reality is "because humans can take responsibility for their actions". And it seems the way our society is built, we'd rather have individuals take responsibility than question the system
    - ssl-3 2y ago
      It's not OK for human drivers, either. But we see bad driving whenever we are out ambulating in the streets, anyway, even in a world with vehicles that are almost always operated by humans. In this world we have today, illegal things happen on the road all of the time. (And we've always seen it, at least in quasi-modern times. It isn't something recent. I'm absolutely certain that we saw it in the horse-driven era, too; we just didn't have much in the way of pocket supercomputers back then to record it with.)
TechDebtDevin 2y ago
I literally just watched a video of a Waymo vehicle driving through and over the debris of a fresh car accident. Sorry, one day this technology will be ready for primetime but it currently is not. I think its complete BS that Waymo and others get to operate and test on public roads. The decision to prototype and test novel technology in public spaces where it can and will kill innocent people should be determined by a public referendum in elections, where I would vote NO.
- jjallen 2y ago
  So don’t try to improve the existing system that already kills tens of thousands a year? Saying it can and will kill innocent people when this hasn’t happened in fifteen years doesn’t pass the smell test.
  - RGamma 2y ago
    The US is, like in several other public welfare stats, a bad outlier in traffic deaths among industrial nations. Thank your corpo overlords. Create the problem, sell the solution.

by boulos 2y ago

KennyBlanken 2y ago

https://www.the-independent.com/tech/waymo-driverless-taxi-ban-robotaxi-b2500697.html https://www.the-independent.com/tech/waymo-driverless-taxi-b... > One of the world’s first fully-driverless taxi firms has been blocked from expanding its business in California, where several of its vehicles have recently been involved in accidents. > Waymo, which is the driverless car division of Google parent Alphabet, currently operates in parts of San Francisco. Attempts to roll-out its robotaxi service to Sunnyvale and Los Angeles were suspended for up to 120 days following a ruling by the California Public Utilities Commission’s Consumer Protection and Enforcement Division (CPED). Then there's the federal investigation for Arizona crashes: https://www.azfamily.com/2024/05/15/feds-investigating-eight-incidents-involving-waymo-driverless-cars-phoenix-chandler/ https://www.azfamily.com/2024/05/15/feds-investigating-eight... Your cars honking at each other in their own parking lot, at 4AM: https://youtu.be/Xvs0K1LG1ac?t=15 https://youtu.be/Xvs0K1LG1ac?t=15 Your cars getting confused by a traffic cone: https://youtu.be/fMFzs0NZ_Mc?t=55 https://youtu.be/fMFzs0NZ_Mc?t=55 Your cars barely able to make a lane change under the most ideal circumstances: https://youtu.be/spw176TZ7-8?t=95 https://youtu.be/spw176TZ7-8?t=95 Unable to respond to the instructions of a police officer and it taking a minute and a half for employees to manually control the car: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ix98jFVyGxs https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ix98jFVyGxs Blocking a fire truck: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eZMXVaF7Bj8 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eZMXVaF7Bj8 Breaking the law and getting pulled over by police for driving in the oncoming lane: https://youtu.be/7W-VneUv8Gk?t=28 https://youtu.be/7W-VneUv8Gk?t=28 One of your cars cutting off another one of your own cars in a wildly unsafe, illegal maneuver: One of your cars running a red light: https://youtu.be/CHEtQ3Egt0c?t=244 https://youtu.be/CHEtQ3Egt0c?t=244 ...and then a few minutes later, illegally entering an intersection and stopping, then continuing to block the intersection because someone made a u-turn 30 feet in front of it while it was stopped: https://youtu.be/CHEtQ3Egt0c?t=474 https://youtu.be/CHEtQ3Egt0c?t=474 And here's the icing on the cake: your company harassing reporters, calling the police on them because reporters were following it: https://youtu.be/spw176TZ7-8?t=170 https://youtu.be/spw176TZ7-8?t=170

jjallen 2y ago
Why do humans get a pass but computers don’t? Why do computers have to be perfect but it’s perfectly legal for humans to kill someone if the sun was in their eyes? Make a list of those stuff for humans every day and it would be gigabytes of records. Almost all goes unpunished.
- nephanth 2y ago
  My very personal opinion is maybe it shouldn't be ok for humans either. Maybe the benefits of cars absolutely don't outweigh the contant risk of deaths and injuries they pose (especially in metropolitan aeras where they are easily replaced by other modes of transportation) Reality is "because humans can take responsibility for their actions". And it seems the way our society is built, we'd rather have individuals take responsibility than question the system
  - ssl-3 2y ago
    It's not OK for human drivers, either. But we see bad driving whenever we are out ambulating in the streets, anyway, even in a world with vehicles that are almost always operated by humans. In this world we have today, illegal things happen on the road all of the time. (And we've always seen it, at least in quasi-modern times. It isn't something recent. I'm absolutely certain that we saw it in the horse-driven era, too; we just didn't have much in the way of pocket supercomputers back then to record it with.)

TechDebtDevin 2y ago

I literally just watched a video of a Waymo vehicle driving through and over the debris of a fresh car accident. Sorry, one day this technology will be ready for primetime but it currently is not. I think its complete BS that Waymo and others get to operate and test on public roads. The decision to prototype and test novel technology in public spaces where it can and will kill innocent people should be determined by a public referendum in elections, where I would vote NO.

jjallen 2y ago
So don’t try to improve the existing system that already kills tens of thousands a year? Saying it can and will kill innocent people when this hasn’t happened in fifteen years doesn’t pass the smell test.
- RGamma 2y ago
  The US is, like in several other public welfare stats, a bad outlier in traffic deaths among industrial nations. Thank your corpo overlords. Create the problem, sell the solution.