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>Protect the children -> Criminalize activites that might in any way cause an increase in risk to children -> Best to just keep them indoors playing with electr

>Protect the children -> Criminalize activites that might in any way cause an increase in risk to children -> Best to just keep them indoors playing with electronic gadgets -> Increased rates of obesity/depression etc -> Children worse off. Not sure how keeping kids off the internet keeps them indoors? Surely the opposite is true?

capitainenemo 2y ago
No mention in that example of internet. If I had to think of specifics, he's probably talking about the things that fall under the category of "free range kids" but also result in parents being criminally prosecuted.
- jimnotgym 2y ago
  This is a discussion about the UK online safety act! That is about the internet isn't it?
  - function_seven 2y ago
    The other example in the parent comment was about fuel economy and trucks. They're just generalized laws about unintended consequences. I used to walk and ride my bike to school. I was in 4th grade. 9 years old. You show me a 9-year-old walking alone to school today, and I'll show you a parent who's getting investigated for child neglect. It's maddening. So that chain of consequences means today's kids are meant to be watched 24/7, and that usually means they're cooped up inside. They're still facing "Stranger Danger" (except through Snap or whatever games they're playing), and now they're also in poorer health.
    - Eisenstein 2y ago
      Nine is a bit young, but I lived down the street from a school and plenty of 10 - 12 year olds walked there by themselves.
indrora 2y ago
In the US at least, we’re at a point where letting your kids play in your yard is enough to get arrested and jailed with child endangerment. Within the last 30 days, a woman has been arrested and charged with child endangerment for the crime of… letting her child walk to the store [1] and others have been jailed for letting their child play outside [2]. So what do you do to entertain children? Use what you have. Dunk them on the internet via YouTube first and then let them free range because you’re tired and can’t give a fuck anymore. ^1 https://abcnews.go.com/amp/GMA/Family/mom-arrested-after-son-reported-walking/story?id=115903965 https://abcnews.go.com/amp/GMA/Family/mom-arrested-after-son... ^2 https://www.aol.com/news/2015-12-03-woman-gets-arrested-for-letting-4-year-old-play-outside-alone-21277432.html https://www.aol.com/news/2015-12-03-woman-gets-arrested-for-...
- Eisenstein 2y ago
  Reading that article, it seems that the mom was arrested because the cops wanted to. Someone called the cops for a child walking down the highway by themselves, and then the cops showed up and arrested her. Cops can arrest people for any reason practically, a lot of times because they just don't like you. I was thrown up against the back of a patrol car and searched when ordering chinese food late at night once. I don't see that she was charged by the prosecutor, or that the child was taken away. The other link you have is neighbors that obviously dislike each other, and they told the cops the kid was in danger.
  - jimnotgym 2y ago
    It is a very interesting counterpoint to the line throughout this discussion that the UK is some kind of oppressive state, yet you state here that in the US a cop can arrest people just because they want to. That would be an extreme edge case in the UK. Constitutional freedom of speech, and a paramilitary police force that can ignore the law.
    - Eisenstein 2y ago
      Yeah it sucks. The police are pretty unaccountable due to their local nature and their unions. When people try to do something about it they go on 'soft strike' and refuse to enforce basic laws in retaliation.

capitainenemo 2y ago

No mention in that example of internet. If I had to think of specifics, he's probably talking about the things that fall under the category of "free range kids" but also result in parents being criminally prosecuted.

jimnotgym 2y ago
This is a discussion about the UK online safety act! That is about the internet isn't it?
- function_seven 2y ago
  The other example in the parent comment was about fuel economy and trucks. They're just generalized laws about unintended consequences. I used to walk and ride my bike to school. I was in 4th grade. 9 years old. You show me a 9-year-old walking alone to school today, and I'll show you a parent who's getting investigated for child neglect. It's maddening. So that chain of consequences means today's kids are meant to be watched 24/7, and that usually means they're cooped up inside. They're still facing "Stranger Danger" (except through Snap or whatever games they're playing), and now they're also in poorer health.
  - Eisenstein 2y ago
    Nine is a bit young, but I lived down the street from a school and plenty of 10 - 12 year olds walked there by themselves.

indrora 2y ago

In the US at least, we’re at a point where letting your kids play in your yard is enough to get arrested and jailed with child endangerment. Within the last 30 days, a woman has been arrested and charged with child endangerment for the crime of… letting her child walk to the store [1] and others have been jailed for letting their child play outside [2]. So what do you do to entertain children? Use what you have. Dunk them on the internet via YouTube first and then let them free range because you’re tired and can’t give a fuck anymore. ^1 https://abcnews.go.com/amp/GMA/Family/mom-arrested-after-son-reported-walking/story?id=115903965 https://abcnews.go.com/amp/GMA/Family/mom-arrested-after-son... ^2 https://www.aol.com/news/2015-12-03-woman-gets-arrested-for-letting-4-year-old-play-outside-alone-21277432.html https://www.aol.com/news/2015-12-03-woman-gets-arrested-for-...

Eisenstein 2y ago
Reading that article, it seems that the mom was arrested because the cops wanted to. Someone called the cops for a child walking down the highway by themselves, and then the cops showed up and arrested her. Cops can arrest people for any reason practically, a lot of times because they just don't like you. I was thrown up against the back of a patrol car and searched when ordering chinese food late at night once. I don't see that she was charged by the prosecutor, or that the child was taken away. The other link you have is neighbors that obviously dislike each other, and they told the cops the kid was in danger.
- jimnotgym 2y ago
  It is a very interesting counterpoint to the line throughout this discussion that the UK is some kind of oppressive state, yet you state here that in the US a cop can arrest people just because they want to. That would be an extreme edge case in the UK. Constitutional freedom of speech, and a paramilitary police force that can ignore the law.
  - Eisenstein 2y ago
    Yeah it sucks. The police are pretty unaccountable due to their local nature and their unions. When people try to do something about it they go on 'soft strike' and refuse to enforce basic laws in retaliation.