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See how long this lasts, got flagged [dead] immediately several times in the new queue, for some reason.

minimaxir 2y ago
404media.co is a shadowbanned domain on HN due to paywalls, meaning any new submission from the domain will automatically be killed. https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=404media.co https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=404media.co (w/ showdead on) Since this post doesn't have a paywall and it's good/newsworthy, I vouched for it.
- jtbayly 2y ago
  A substantial portion of the links on this site have paywalls. If that’s why this domain is shadowbanned, why isn’t NYT?
  - gjsman-1000 2y ago
    [flagged]
    - mrguyorama 2y ago
      This is pretty laughable. HN has had it's quirks and completely hidden behavior pretty much since the beginning. For example: YC alums can see other YC alums, but none of us plebs are allowed to see their special group. You can never know if you are arguing against a few individuals or a bunch of people with very aligned interests.
  - tptacek 2y ago
    Paywalls are fine, so long as there is a reliable workaround that can be posted to the thread.
- quintin 2y ago
  Are you a HN admin/dev/mod now?
  - kotaKat 2y ago
    No, anyone can technically vouch dead posts with 31 karma or higher. Vouching is the inverse of a flag. https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented/blob/master/README.md#flaggingvouching https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented/blob/m...
    - echoangle 2y ago
      I think the question was due to the claim that the domain is shadowbanned, not the vouching.
  - minimaxir 2y ago
    No. Although I may not have the exact reason the domain was banned, I've been around long enough to observe that everytime a 404media.co article is posted and gets traction, the comments unanimously complain about the paywall and it gets flagkilled. Vouching is intended as a corrective check on things that shouldn't be automatically killed.
    - echoangle 2y ago
      So it’s not shadowbanned in the sense that the server sees the domain and automatically flags the post, but users manually flag it?
      - minimaxir 2y ago
        Now it's shadowbanned, but that wasn't the case when 404media.co first launched. https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=404media.co&next=39328758 https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=404media.co&next=3932...
        echoangle 2y ago
coldpie 2y ago
> for some reason There's not really much news here, I think. It's just gossiping at Matt's public meltdown, which, eh.

404media.co is a shadowbanned domain on HN due to paywalls, meaning any new submission from the domain will automatically be killed. https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=404media.co https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=404media.co (w/ showdead on) Since this post doesn't have a paywall and it's good/newsworthy, I vouched for it.

jtbayly 2y ago
A substantial portion of the links on this site have paywalls. If that’s why this domain is shadowbanned, why isn’t NYT?
- gjsman-1000 2y ago
  [flagged]
  - mrguyorama 2y ago
    This is pretty laughable. HN has had it's quirks and completely hidden behavior pretty much since the beginning. For example: YC alums can see other YC alums, but none of us plebs are allowed to see their special group. You can never know if you are arguing against a few individuals or a bunch of people with very aligned interests.
- tptacek 2y ago
  Paywalls are fine, so long as there is a reliable workaround that can be posted to the thread.
quintin 2y ago
Are you a HN admin/dev/mod now?
- kotaKat 2y ago
  No, anyone can technically vouch dead posts with 31 karma or higher. Vouching is the inverse of a flag. https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented/blob/master/README.md#flaggingvouching https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented/blob/m...
  - echoangle 2y ago
    I think the question was due to the claim that the domain is shadowbanned, not the vouching.
- minimaxir 2y ago
  No. Although I may not have the exact reason the domain was banned, I've been around long enough to observe that everytime a 404media.co article is posted and gets traction, the comments unanimously complain about the paywall and it gets flagkilled. Vouching is intended as a corrective check on things that shouldn't be automatically killed.
  - echoangle 2y ago
    So it’s not shadowbanned in the sense that the server sees the domain and automatically flags the post, but users manually flag it?
    - minimaxir 2y ago
      Now it's shadowbanned, but that wasn't the case when 404media.co first launched. https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=404media.co&next=39328758 https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=404media.co&next=3932...
      - echoangle 2y ago

coldpie 2y ago

> for some reason There's not really much news here, I think. It's just gossiping at Matt's public meltdown, which, eh.