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You forgot it's mostly about Chinese Communist Party influence (or eventual influence) if they get firmly entrenched in the public mindset of the USA. No nation

You forgot it's mostly about Chinese Communist Party influence (or eventual influence) if they get firmly entrenched in the public mindset of the USA. No nation political apparatus should have such a large direct (actual or potential) influence into the minds of the US public. It's a national security risk of the highest priority. Not every security risk is saber-rattling or direct cybersecurity threats. it's one thing if citizens look up and pursue the CCP's philosophies, but this is about stopping the direct injection of said propaganda straight into our toddlers, teens, and tweens brain. They shouldn't have to suffer because of some absolutists take on the first amendment, when we have various limits for the public good all over the place.

fazeirony 2y ago
> direct injection of said propaganda straight into our toddlers, teens, and tweens brain by that same logic, shouldn't we then ban ig/facebook/threads/twitter/etc.? but since its our propaganda, we can classify as 'news' or some other thing? i very much get what you're saying in principle (re: CCP); however, i don't see the difference in potentially, negatively affecting children's brains. EDIT: corrected word
- pertymcpert 2y ago
  It's not the same logic at all. One is foreign and the other is domestic and can be regulated and controlled to an extent. Don't you see that?
- EGG_CREAM 2y ago
  Forgive me if I’m misunderstanding, but it sounds like you feel there should be some higher, ideal-based reason for the ban. But this is happening in the anarchic environment of international relations. The USA’s goal is to reduce the potential for its citizens to be engaged by enemy propaganda. Yes, they are more worried about the influence of Chinese propaganda than domestic propaganda, why shouldn’t they be? This isn’t about ideals, it’s about power. And probably also lots of lobbying from X and Meta.

fazeirony 2y ago

> direct injection of said propaganda straight into our toddlers, teens, and tweens brain by that same logic, shouldn't we then ban ig/facebook/threads/twitter/etc.? but since its our propaganda, we can classify as 'news' or some other thing? i very much get what you're saying in principle (re: CCP); however, i don't see the difference in potentially, negatively affecting children's brains. EDIT: corrected word

pertymcpert 2y ago
It's not the same logic at all. One is foreign and the other is domestic and can be regulated and controlled to an extent. Don't you see that?
EGG_CREAM 2y ago
Forgive me if I’m misunderstanding, but it sounds like you feel there should be some higher, ideal-based reason for the ban. But this is happening in the anarchic environment of international relations. The USA’s goal is to reduce the potential for its citizens to be engaged by enemy propaganda. Yes, they are more worried about the influence of Chinese propaganda than domestic propaganda, why shouldn’t they be? This isn’t about ideals, it’s about power. And probably also lots of lobbying from X and Meta.