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IMO "Agents" are a marketing term, they are simply software that use LLMs somewhere in the backend. Often daisy chained into a series of operations that may inv

IMO "Agents" are a marketing term, they are simply software that use LLMs somewhere in the backend. Often daisy chained into a series of operations that may involve additional LLM calls or calls to other internal/external services. One we've been using for meeting notes + action items works quite well https://fireflies.ai https://fireflies.ai

mistrial9 2y ago
no "Agents" have a specific technical meaning.. an engine is connected to tools.. simple example is a bash terminal environment.
- simonw 2y ago
  Where did you get the idea that "LLM connected to tools" is the one true meaning of the term agents? (I'm not trying to be accusatory here, just trying to understand how these opinions spread.)
  - karmakaze 2y ago
    It's the same that I've converged on: Agents are LLMs with agency, ie. can effect actions (by being connected to tools, APIs, etc). I break out the offerings into two groups: 1. those that are pre-built for specific tasks/areas (or can be no/low-code scripted using pre-built bits), 2. those that can be custom built to connect to you specific API/actions. Another version of Agents is described in the paper "Agent Hospital: A Simulacrum of Hospital with Evolvable Medical Agents"[0] where instead of having one LLM prompted context, you create many that specialize in different areas, and have them communicate to distribute a task. The effect is that the outcome is higher quality than trying to use a single automated LLM. [0] https://arxiv.org/abs/2405.02957 https://arxiv.org/abs/2405.02957
  - mistrial9 2y ago
    Dawn Song final lecture at LLM class, UC Berkeley two weeks ago https://understanding-ai-safety.org/ https://understanding-ai-safety.org/
fulafel 2y ago
"Agentic" could argued to be nearer to "having agency" or having their own motives and ways to enact them. (see eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agency_(sociology) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agency_(sociology) "One's agency is one's independent capability or ability to act on one's will").

mistrial9 2y ago

no "Agents" have a specific technical meaning.. an engine is connected to tools.. simple example is a bash terminal environment.

simonw 2y ago
Where did you get the idea that "LLM connected to tools" is the one true meaning of the term agents? (I'm not trying to be accusatory here, just trying to understand how these opinions spread.)
- karmakaze 2y ago
  It's the same that I've converged on: Agents are LLMs with agency, ie. can effect actions (by being connected to tools, APIs, etc). I break out the offerings into two groups: 1. those that are pre-built for specific tasks/areas (or can be no/low-code scripted using pre-built bits), 2. those that can be custom built to connect to you specific API/actions. Another version of Agents is described in the paper "Agent Hospital: A Simulacrum of Hospital with Evolvable Medical Agents"[0] where instead of having one LLM prompted context, you create many that specialize in different areas, and have them communicate to distribute a task. The effect is that the outcome is higher quality than trying to use a single automated LLM. [0] https://arxiv.org/abs/2405.02957 https://arxiv.org/abs/2405.02957
- mistrial9 2y ago
  Dawn Song final lecture at LLM class, UC Berkeley two weeks ago https://understanding-ai-safety.org/ https://understanding-ai-safety.org/

fulafel 2y ago

"Agentic" could argued to be nearer to "having agency" or having their own motives and ways to enact them. (see eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agency_(sociology) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agency_(sociology) "One's agency is one's independent capability or ability to act on one's will").