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Anyone know of good TV's? Either a "dumb" TV (HDMI and HDMI only), or the built-in electronics are easily rootable so you can replace the shovelware with Kodi

by csense 2y ago

Anyone know of good TV's? Either a "dumb" TV (HDMI and HDMI only), or the built-in electronics are easily rootable so you can replace the shovelware with Kodi (or stock Debian / Alpine / whatever).

whalesalad 2y ago
My LG C2 OLED is great. I never connected to the internet. I have never seen an advertisement or pop-up or anything. For all intents and purposes, it is a dumb TV more like a computer monitor. I do not use any of the built-in applications, just literal HDMI1 (appletv) and HDMI3 (gaming pc). I adore it as a TV and would buy one again in a heartbeat. Not cheap though.
bni 2y ago
"Dumb" TVs don't really exist anymore, unless you get something from the very low end, but those have crap picture quality and build quality. Best option is LG OLED, never connect it to the network and set it to startup on HDMI1 always.
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 2y ago
  Perhaps "TV" should be in quotes as well. In many cases, e.g., where the owner does not have good reception of digital free-to-air stations, the "TV" is effectively used as a monitor used to watch video downloaded to a internet-connected computer with an HDMI port ("set-top box", small form factor SBC, etc.). Despite cheap storage there is a culture of throwing away the downloaded video and replacing the word "download" with "stream". A monitor may also be combined with a computer in the same housing, but the fundamentals are the same: monitor, computer, video downloaded via internet. To me, "smart TVs" are just a way for someone else to keep a running list of everything the owner watches.
someuser2345 2y ago
I like the Sceptre TV's
mrbigbob 2y ago
the closest thing to a dumb TV are "commercial displays" that are designed for business signage, etc. sadly some of those now are even coming with OS's in them so if you are interested in going that route be careful what you purchase
Filligree 2y ago
Do you absolutely need the antenna connector? If not, consider a large computer monitor.
- whynotmaybe 2y ago
  My Roku stream bar doesn't work with some of my computer monitors. I guess it's due to some DRM protection with the HDMI.
bigtex 2y ago
I bought a Samsung "dumb" TV, actually a commercial display from B&H. Other than an annoying popup at the bottom for the terms of service confirmation that goes away in 5 seconds, it is completely off-line. I did connect it to web once to update the firmware, and even then it only had a few apps installed but zero ads. I did reset the network settings and the apps went away.

by csense 2y ago

Anyone know of good TV's? Either a "dumb" TV (HDMI and HDMI only), or the built-in electronics are easily rootable so you can replace the shovelware with Kodi (or stock Debian / Alpine / whatever).

whalesalad 2y ago

My LG C2 OLED is great. I never connected to the internet. I have never seen an advertisement or pop-up or anything. For all intents and purposes, it is a dumb TV more like a computer monitor. I do not use any of the built-in applications, just literal HDMI1 (appletv) and HDMI3 (gaming pc). I adore it as a TV and would buy one again in a heartbeat. Not cheap though.

bni 2y ago

"Dumb" TVs don't really exist anymore, unless you get something from the very low end, but those have crap picture quality and build quality. Best option is LG OLED, never connect it to the network and set it to startup on HDMI1 always.

1vuio0pswjnm7 2y ago
Perhaps "TV" should be in quotes as well. In many cases, e.g., where the owner does not have good reception of digital free-to-air stations, the "TV" is effectively used as a monitor used to watch video downloaded to a internet-connected computer with an HDMI port ("set-top box", small form factor SBC, etc.). Despite cheap storage there is a culture of throwing away the downloaded video and replacing the word "download" with "stream". A monitor may also be combined with a computer in the same housing, but the fundamentals are the same: monitor, computer, video downloaded via internet. To me, "smart TVs" are just a way for someone else to keep a running list of everything the owner watches.

someuser2345 2y ago

I like the Sceptre TV's

mrbigbob 2y ago

the closest thing to a dumb TV are "commercial displays" that are designed for business signage, etc. sadly some of those now are even coming with OS's in them so if you are interested in going that route be careful what you purchase

Filligree 2y ago

Do you absolutely need the antenna connector? If not, consider a large computer monitor.

whynotmaybe 2y ago
My Roku stream bar doesn't work with some of my computer monitors. I guess it's due to some DRM protection with the HDMI.

bigtex 2y ago

I bought a Samsung "dumb" TV, actually a commercial display from B&H. Other than an annoying popup at the bottom for the terms of service confirmation that goes away in 5 seconds, it is completely off-line. I did connect it to web once to update the firmware, and even then it only had a few apps installed but zero ads. I did reset the network settings and the apps went away.