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Destin from Smarter Every Day got to spend a day on the USS Toledo and made multiple videos about this[0]. I mention it because in one of the videos he and the

Destin from Smarter Every Day got to spend a day on the USS Toledo and made multiple videos about this[0]. I mention it because in one of the videos he and the crew talk about submarine stealth (the non classified bits) and there's a surprising amount of science behind just being in the right part of the water, where the water itself (density changes, temperature changes, currents, etc) can make it almost impossible to see you. So Betteridge's Law of Headlines still applies: No, they will still hide just fine. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXXMJAU6vY8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXXMJAU6vY8

ckozlowski 2y ago
"No, they will still hide just fine." Agreed. And the fact that adversaries are still building them even as headlines like this state that "stealth is dead" tells you everything. New threats? Yes. Obsolete, no.
ethbr1 2y ago
Jive Turkey's old YT videos in which he'd play Cold Waters and talk about late-Cold War-era sonar operation were amazing. And now sadly gone. :( Word is some of the information was still a little too OPSEC accurate (physics doesn't change that fast) + a career change to the private defense industry necessitated rebranding. Shame, as he did an excellent job teaching about thermoclines et al. in the context of passive sonar systems.
- ckozlowski 2y ago
  He's still around under Sub Brief (https://www.youtube.com/@SubBrief https://www.youtube.com/@SubBrief) but I wouldn't be surprised if some of his videos have since been edited and/or removed. Especially the ones where he'd whiteboard things. He would state how he couldn't speak to certain things, but there were times where he would share some insight and I'd cringe a little. A couple come to mind, but I won't repeat them here. He's still interesting to watch though!
  - ethbr1 2y ago
    I looked and apparently he nuked the entire whiteboard era series of vids. Even the game stuff up now is newer and not as detailed.

ckozlowski 2y ago

"No, they will still hide just fine." Agreed. And the fact that adversaries are still building them even as headlines like this state that "stealth is dead" tells you everything. New threats? Yes. Obsolete, no.

ethbr1 2y ago

Jive Turkey's old YT videos in which he'd play Cold Waters and talk about late-Cold War-era sonar operation were amazing. And now sadly gone. :( Word is some of the information was still a little too OPSEC accurate (physics doesn't change that fast) + a career change to the private defense industry necessitated rebranding. Shame, as he did an excellent job teaching about thermoclines et al. in the context of passive sonar systems.

ckozlowski 2y ago
He's still around under Sub Brief (https://www.youtube.com/@SubBrief https://www.youtube.com/@SubBrief) but I wouldn't be surprised if some of his videos have since been edited and/or removed. Especially the ones where he'd whiteboard things. He would state how he couldn't speak to certain things, but there were times where he would share some insight and I'd cringe a little. A couple come to mind, but I won't repeat them here. He's still interesting to watch though!
- ethbr1 2y ago
  I looked and apparently he nuked the entire whiteboard era series of vids. Even the game stuff up now is newer and not as detailed.