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TCL’s agreements say you’re not allowed to do that. https://www.tcl.com/us/en/roku-tv/eula https://www.tcl.com/us/en/roku-tv/eula “If you do not agree to this

TCL’s agreements say you’re not allowed to do that. https://www.tcl.com/us/en/roku-tv/eula https://www.tcl.com/us/en/roku-tv/eula “If you do not agree to this EULA, you do not have the right to use the Television or the Software. If you are within the allowable time period for returns under the applicable return policy, you may return the Television to your seller for a refund, subject to the terms of such return policy. You should perform a factory reset before you return it to erase data that may be stored on the Television.”

reginald78 2y ago
The more nefarious play would be to have the TV stop functioning if the EULA is rejected but only after the return period has passed.
EMIRELADERO 2y ago
That rubbish is probably unenforceable anyway. That being said, this is the first time I've ever seen an EULA be this brazen and predatory. Claiming that I'm not allowed to use the entire device because I don't agree to some post-sale contract? In writing? Are you sure you want to do that TCL?!?!?
- jqpabc123 2y ago
  That rubbish is probably unenforceable anyway. It may depend on your jurisdiction but here in the USA, I'm pretty sure it's legal because they offer a full refund if you chose not to accept. There are alternative ways to coerce users into playing along. For example, simply store/retrieve TV configuration in the cloud. Without connectivity configured, the TV starts over from scratch in device setup on every power up. And connectivity obviously opens the possibility for other uses.
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  - EMIRELADERO 2y ago
    The reason why it's unenforceable is probably unconscionability. There is no value that the contract provides that wouldn't exist if there was no contract. You have a right to use hardware you own and the software that comes with it, just because you bought the device. It's not the EULA that allows you to use the TV and software, simply having it in your legal posession means you have the right to use it.
  - FireBeyond 2y ago
    > I'm pretty sure it's legal because they offer a full refund if you chose not to accept. They offer you the opportunity to get a refund from the retailer, subject to that retailer's return policies, which may mean "open box" restocking fees, time limitations or similar. That is not the same thing.

reginald78 2y ago

The more nefarious play would be to have the TV stop functioning if the EULA is rejected but only after the return period has passed.

EMIRELADERO 2y ago

That rubbish is probably unenforceable anyway. That being said, this is the first time I've ever seen an EULA be this brazen and predatory. Claiming that I'm not allowed to use the entire device because I don't agree to some post-sale contract? In writing? Are you sure you want to do that TCL?!?!?

jqpabc123 2y ago
That rubbish is probably unenforceable anyway. It may depend on your jurisdiction but here in the USA, I'm pretty sure it's legal because they offer a full refund if you chose not to accept. There are alternative ways to coerce users into playing along. For example, simply store/retrieve TV configuration in the cloud. Without connectivity configured, the TV starts over from scratch in device setup on every power up. And connectivity obviously opens the possibility for other uses.
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- EMIRELADERO 2y ago
  The reason why it's unenforceable is probably unconscionability. There is no value that the contract provides that wouldn't exist if there was no contract. You have a right to use hardware you own and the software that comes with it, just because you bought the device. It's not the EULA that allows you to use the TV and software, simply having it in your legal posession means you have the right to use it.
- FireBeyond 2y ago
  > I'm pretty sure it's legal because they offer a full refund if you chose not to accept. They offer you the opportunity to get a refund from the retailer, subject to that retailer's return policies, which may mean "open box" restocking fees, time limitations or similar. That is not the same thing.