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> The past few days wind has been pretty bad. Except... it was not. Here. And somewhere, the sun is shining. People need to _stop_ thinking energy productio

> The past few days wind has been pretty bad. Except... it was not. Here. And somewhere, the sun is shining. People need to _stop_ thinking energy production is hyperlocal when, in reality, it is not. And never has been. Now, swedes are complaining, germans (i.e. me) are buying energy and raising prices. There will be a time, when they will import energy from us. Just as much as we exported energy to France when half their atomic powerplants have been shutdown due to no cooling water available. Is it helpful to beancount each and any time more energy has been exported than imported or the other way around? No, i don't think so. And yes, the next big challenge is to build grid-level energy storage. Yes, with batteries. No, hydrogen is not the answer. Batteries it is. Get moving, stop complaining.

piva00 2y ago
> Now, swedes are complaining, germans (i.e. me) are buying energy and raising prices. There will be a time, when they will import energy from us. Just as much as we exported energy to France when half their atomic powerplants have been shutdown due to no cooling water available. Sweden is pretty self-sufficient in power generation, most times I've checked the electricity interchange maps we are exporting electricity, never caught a moment where we imported significant amounts of it. I'd very much like to not pay exorbitant prices because Germany's energy policies have been misguided, I understand suffering it during a time of crisis (like the Russian invasion of Ukraine) but right now it hurts on many fronts: German's proto-recession (caused in part by high cost of energy) affects Swedish exports since Germany is one of our largest importers; extremely high energy prices shuts down our industry; consumer spending goes down because people get uncertain about prices and buffer more against this uncertainty. I really like Germany, and have been impressed by the rapid push to renewables after you got fleeced by believing in Russia but it's hard to shake the feeling of resentment on how slow moving your bureaucracy is because of industry's power over your politicians...
tcfhgj 2y ago
> Yes, with batteries. No, hydrogen is not the answer. Batteries it is. Get moving, stop complaining. what makes you say that?

piva00 2y ago

> Now, swedes are complaining, germans (i.e. me) are buying energy and raising prices. There will be a time, when they will import energy from us. Just as much as we exported energy to France when half their atomic powerplants have been shutdown due to no cooling water available. Sweden is pretty self-sufficient in power generation, most times I've checked the electricity interchange maps we are exporting electricity, never caught a moment where we imported significant amounts of it. I'd very much like to not pay exorbitant prices because Germany's energy policies have been misguided, I understand suffering it during a time of crisis (like the Russian invasion of Ukraine) but right now it hurts on many fronts: German's proto-recession (caused in part by high cost of energy) affects Swedish exports since Germany is one of our largest importers; extremely high energy prices shuts down our industry; consumer spending goes down because people get uncertain about prices and buffer more against this uncertainty. I really like Germany, and have been impressed by the rapid push to renewables after you got fleeced by believing in Russia but it's hard to shake the feeling of resentment on how slow moving your bureaucracy is because of industry's power over your politicians...

tcfhgj 2y ago

> Yes, with batteries. No, hydrogen is not the answer. Batteries it is. Get moving, stop complaining. what makes you say that?