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We love our regulation, especially if the government can't easily tax it. Yet, we still have gambling adverts on UK TV and on football shirts. At the same tim

We love our regulation, especially if the government can't easily tax it. Yet, we still have gambling adverts on UK TV and on football shirts. At the same time we've also banned adverts for "certain types" of porridge. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgrwzx8er9o https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgrwzx8er9o

AJRF 2y ago
Unlikely to change as Gambling companies are major donors to the Labour Party. https://theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jun/28/tory-betting-scandal-labour-gambling-industry-regulation https://theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jun/28/tory-bet...
shreddit 2y ago
Well "porridge" is not a synonym for "healthy", but i see your point in gambling ads...
- DrBazza 2y ago
  Goldilocks aside, I’ve not seen a family ruined by porridge. I have seen it first hand with gambling.
thih9 2y ago
About banning ads for “certain types of porridge”: > …the majority of porridge, muesli and granola products will not be affected by the advertising restrictions but some less healthy versions (with added sugar, chocolate, syrup) could be affected. > Sometimes products may be marketed as, or perceived by consumers to be, healthy but in fact contain surprisingly high levels of saturated fat, salt or sugar. Source: https://healthmedia.blog.gov.uk/2024/12/06/here-are-the-facts-about-our-junk-food-ban/ https://healthmedia.blog.gov.uk/2024/12/06/here-are-the-fact... More details; the pdf in the last link has examples on how scoring (computing NPM score) is done for particular products: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/restricting-advertising-of-less-healthy-food-or-drink-on-tv-and-online-products-in-scope/restricting-advertising-of-less-healthy-food-or-drink-on-tv-and-online-products-in-scope https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/restricting-adver... , https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-nutrient-profiling-model https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-nutrient-prof...
- guilhas 2y ago
  I was in Tesco, buying a orange juce The standard version was 100% orange pressed The "healthy" low cal version was 50% orange 50% water and sweetener addictives Same brand/price The British Heart Foundation also recommends cola zero as healthier than 100% juice
  - nvarsj 2y ago
    Pure fruit juice is not good for you. It has a super high concentration of sugar. The benefits of fruit are primarily the fiber contents, which is completely missing in juice.
  - myrmidon 2y ago
    Pure fruit juice is insanely unhealthy. This is because it circumvents the normal mechanisms that regulate fruit intake, while containing even more sugar. If you press orange juice yourself, and see the mountain of fruits that are needed for just a liter of the stuff, it becomes quite obvious why drinking fruit juice regularly is not a good idea.
  - thih9 2y ago
    This is comparing cola to oranges; like others said, fruit juices are generally not recommended in amounts greater than 150ml per day according to UK’s healthy eating guidelines. > Pure fruit or vegetable juices and smoothies should be limited to a combined total of 150ml a day. This is because crushing fruit and vegetables releases the sugars they contain to produce free sugars. Free sugars also include the sugars added to food or drinks, and sugars found naturally in honey and syrups. These free sugars are linked to excess weight and tooth decay. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/healthy-eating-applying-all-our-health/healthy-eating-applying-all-our-health https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/healthy-eating-ap...
- pc86 2y ago
  I know you think this is a gotcha but you're seriously advocating for the banning of advertisements of certain kinds of food? Based on the fact that what, some people aren't smart enough to read an ingredient label?
jahewson 2y ago
Given that such porridges are only “unhealthy” to the extent that they increase risk factors for various diseases, perhaps eating them should be considered a form of gambling. Then government could tax it too.
- throwawayffffas 2y ago
  They have already taxed sugar in soft drinks. I am guessing porridge is not too far out. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/sugar-tax-revenue-helps-tackle-childhood-obesity https://www.gov.uk/government/news/sugar-tax-revenue-helps-t...
projektfu 2y ago
First, they came for the crumpets.

AJRF 2y ago

Unlikely to change as Gambling companies are major donors to the Labour Party. https://theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jun/28/tory-betting-scandal-labour-gambling-industry-regulation https://theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jun/28/tory-bet...

shreddit 2y ago

Well "porridge" is not a synonym for "healthy", but i see your point in gambling ads...

DrBazza 2y ago
Goldilocks aside, I’ve not seen a family ruined by porridge. I have seen it first hand with gambling.

thih9 2y ago

About banning ads for “certain types of porridge”: > …the majority of porridge, muesli and granola products will not be affected by the advertising restrictions but some less healthy versions (with added sugar, chocolate, syrup) could be affected. > Sometimes products may be marketed as, or perceived by consumers to be, healthy but in fact contain surprisingly high levels of saturated fat, salt or sugar. Source: https://healthmedia.blog.gov.uk/2024/12/06/here-are-the-facts-about-our-junk-food-ban/ https://healthmedia.blog.gov.uk/2024/12/06/here-are-the-fact... More details; the pdf in the last link has examples on how scoring (computing NPM score) is done for particular products: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/restricting-advertising-of-less-healthy-food-or-drink-on-tv-and-online-products-in-scope/restricting-advertising-of-less-healthy-food-or-drink-on-tv-and-online-products-in-scope https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/restricting-adver... , https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-nutrient-profiling-model https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-nutrient-prof...

guilhas 2y ago
I was in Tesco, buying a orange juce The standard version was 100% orange pressed The "healthy" low cal version was 50% orange 50% water and sweetener addictives Same brand/price The British Heart Foundation also recommends cola zero as healthier than 100% juice
- nvarsj 2y ago
  Pure fruit juice is not good for you. It has a super high concentration of sugar. The benefits of fruit are primarily the fiber contents, which is completely missing in juice.
- myrmidon 2y ago
  Pure fruit juice is insanely unhealthy. This is because it circumvents the normal mechanisms that regulate fruit intake, while containing even more sugar. If you press orange juice yourself, and see the mountain of fruits that are needed for just a liter of the stuff, it becomes quite obvious why drinking fruit juice regularly is not a good idea.
- thih9 2y ago
  This is comparing cola to oranges; like others said, fruit juices are generally not recommended in amounts greater than 150ml per day according to UK’s healthy eating guidelines. > Pure fruit or vegetable juices and smoothies should be limited to a combined total of 150ml a day. This is because crushing fruit and vegetables releases the sugars they contain to produce free sugars. Free sugars also include the sugars added to food or drinks, and sugars found naturally in honey and syrups. These free sugars are linked to excess weight and tooth decay. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/healthy-eating-applying-all-our-health/healthy-eating-applying-all-our-health https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/healthy-eating-ap...
pc86 2y ago
I know you think this is a gotcha but you're seriously advocating for the banning of advertisements of certain kinds of food? Based on the fact that what, some people aren't smart enough to read an ingredient label?

jahewson 2y ago

Given that such porridges are only “unhealthy” to the extent that they increase risk factors for various diseases, perhaps eating them should be considered a form of gambling. Then government could tax it too.

throwawayffffas 2y ago
They have already taxed sugar in soft drinks. I am guessing porridge is not too far out. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/sugar-tax-revenue-helps-tackle-childhood-obesity https://www.gov.uk/government/news/sugar-tax-revenue-helps-t...

projektfu 2y ago

First, they came for the crumpets.