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I know this, but there is still a massive net benefit for the youth, and I hope it opens the door to more social media scrutiny. People forget how relaxed life

I know this, but there is still a massive net benefit for the youth, and I hope it opens the door to more social media scrutiny. People forget how relaxed life was before everyone could point a camera at someone and upload and embarass them in 10 seconds

0points 2y ago
Don't expect the world to change. On Jan 20, new office will start tearing up decisions.
- swarnie 2y ago
  I'm not one for the US Politics but i distinctly remember this being a keystone Trump policy last time around. Why would it change just a couple of years later?
  - 0points 2y ago
    I dont know. Ask him? https://time.com/6900348/tiktok-ban-donald-trump-congress/ https://time.com/6900348/tiktok-ban-donald-trump-congress/
  - vineyardmike 2y ago
    1. A TikTok investor was a major campaign donor 2. Your party gets to be the party that helped the youth with their little toy. Courting the next generation is important. Especially for the party that is associated with older people. 3. He wanted fame and credit for the deal before, and he won’t get it now. He even suggested that he be paid a fee in exchange. He gets nothing for this. 4. Four years later nothing bad happened thanks to TikTok. It was certainly a concern that the liberal youth would use it to organize or whatever. But his party is back in power so it clearly wasn’t a political threat.
lukan 2y ago
"People forget how relaxed life was before everyone could point a camera at someone and upload and embarass them in 10 seconds" But that has been a thing since quite a while and unless you ban smartphones, won't go away. Not in general at least, but smartphone free areas (in school) are likely beneficial. On the other hand, we can also make it illegal and enforce it in an easy way to upload pictures of other people against their will. I guess in most areas it is already illegal, but what teen would go to the police over a ridiculous video? We all could also just accept, that everyone acts embarrassing from time to time.
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- nicce 2y ago
  Not really. It was not socially acceptable to record in all scenarios. The negative effect for the recording person was larger than the internet fame on average.
  - vineyardmike 2y ago
    Not for the kids who grew up with this. Kids would film themselves bullying others even before you could get internet points for sharing it.
  - lukan 2y ago
    It is also not socially acceptable today, to film another person today and upload it against their will. Kids (and grown up kids) do it anyway.
    - nicce 2y ago
      Sorry, what I mean is that the potential social fame outweighs most social penalty that you get from filming against the another persons will. The outweigh was not so clear previously, and not so easily achieved.
hbs18 2y ago
> but there is still a massive net benefit for the youth No, there isn't. The youth will just switch to Instagram Reels.
close04 2y ago
> there is still a massive net benefit for the youth, and I hope it opens the door to more social media scrutiny More realistically it just opens the door for US social media companies to fill the very profitable gap left by TikTok. Do you believe that for no reason whatsoever except the kindness of their corporate hearts, Meta, X, Alphabet, and others will just decide to abandon this segment?

0points 2y ago

Don't expect the world to change. On Jan 20, new office will start tearing up decisions.

swarnie 2y ago
I'm not one for the US Politics but i distinctly remember this being a keystone Trump policy last time around. Why would it change just a couple of years later?
- 0points 2y ago
  I dont know. Ask him? https://time.com/6900348/tiktok-ban-donald-trump-congress/ https://time.com/6900348/tiktok-ban-donald-trump-congress/
- vineyardmike 2y ago
  1. A TikTok investor was a major campaign donor 2. Your party gets to be the party that helped the youth with their little toy. Courting the next generation is important. Especially for the party that is associated with older people. 3. He wanted fame and credit for the deal before, and he won’t get it now. He even suggested that he be paid a fee in exchange. He gets nothing for this. 4. Four years later nothing bad happened thanks to TikTok. It was certainly a concern that the liberal youth would use it to organize or whatever. But his party is back in power so it clearly wasn’t a political threat.

lukan 2y ago

"People forget how relaxed life was before everyone could point a camera at someone and upload and embarass them in 10 seconds" But that has been a thing since quite a while and unless you ban smartphones, won't go away. Not in general at least, but smartphone free areas (in school) are likely beneficial. On the other hand, we can also make it illegal and enforce it in an easy way to upload pictures of other people against their will. I guess in most areas it is already illegal, but what teen would go to the police over a ridiculous video? We all could also just accept, that everyone acts embarrassing from time to time.

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nicce 2y ago
Not really. It was not socially acceptable to record in all scenarios. The negative effect for the recording person was larger than the internet fame on average.
- vineyardmike 2y ago
  Not for the kids who grew up with this. Kids would film themselves bullying others even before you could get internet points for sharing it.
- lukan 2y ago
  It is also not socially acceptable today, to film another person today and upload it against their will. Kids (and grown up kids) do it anyway.
  - nicce 2y ago
    Sorry, what I mean is that the potential social fame outweighs most social penalty that you get from filming against the another persons will. The outweigh was not so clear previously, and not so easily achieved.

hbs18 2y ago

> but there is still a massive net benefit for the youth No, there isn't. The youth will just switch to Instagram Reels.

close04 2y ago

> there is still a massive net benefit for the youth, and I hope it opens the door to more social media scrutiny More realistically it just opens the door for US social media companies to fill the very profitable gap left by TikTok. Do you believe that for no reason whatsoever except the kindness of their corporate hearts, Meta, X, Alphabet, and others will just decide to abandon this segment?