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Who’s the adversary? China? China is not my adversary even if the United States government thinks so. I believe many Americans would agree with that. To me it

Who’s the adversary? China? China is not my adversary even if the United States government thinks so. I believe many Americans would agree with that. To me it seems China made a superior app that the American youth wanted to use and the American social media apparatus was jealous so lobbied to have it banned.

OhioMan2943 2y ago
China was supporting russian bot accounts in the recent us election. Sounds pretty adversarial to me
- badestrand 2y ago
  Any evidence and/or links for this? My Google search didn't result in anything substantial.
kelnos 2y ago
> China is not my adversary even if the United States government thinks so. I believe many Americans would agree with that. I (a US citizen) do think of the Chinese government as an adversary. I believe many Americans would agree with me. (See, I can make the same assertion without evidence.) > To me it seems China made a superior app that the American youth wanted to use and the American social media apparatus was jealous so lobbied to have it banned. Sure, that's certainly part of it. It's economic protectionism. Which, honestly, when it's protectionism against a nation with a fairly closed market, where US companies and capital have much less access (and access comes with strict restrictions and censorship requirements) than Chinese companies (and their government), I'm having a hard time getting all up in arms about it.
lm28469 2y ago
China is not my enemy hence everything china does is good and everything my government does against any chinese action is bad Sheesh, I'll never understand people smart enough to see their local government as bad but dumb enough to idolise every other foreign power
- latentcall 2y ago
  I don’t idolize any government national or foreign, that would be silly.
71bw 2y ago
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- greenie_beans 2y ago
  i'm not on tiktok and have never seen a tiktok about this issue but i care about it. same with a lot of my friends who are not on tiktok. same with hn god paul graham.
- latentcall 2y ago
  What lies about Israel-Hamas? Pro-Palestinian support isn’t a Chinese psyop, people can see the videos coming from Gaza plainly and make up their own opinion. I never bought the idea that the American people are super gun ho about Israel. My family are all conservative Midwest folks and they don’t see why we give them so much money when Americans at home suffer. It’s not just the “left” that thinks this.

OhioMan2943 2y ago

China was supporting russian bot accounts in the recent us election. Sounds pretty adversarial to me

badestrand 2y ago
Any evidence and/or links for this? My Google search didn't result in anything substantial.

kelnos 2y ago

> China is not my adversary even if the United States government thinks so. I believe many Americans would agree with that. I (a US citizen) do think of the Chinese government as an adversary. I believe many Americans would agree with me. (See, I can make the same assertion without evidence.) > To me it seems China made a superior app that the American youth wanted to use and the American social media apparatus was jealous so lobbied to have it banned. Sure, that's certainly part of it. It's economic protectionism. Which, honestly, when it's protectionism against a nation with a fairly closed market, where US companies and capital have much less access (and access comes with strict restrictions and censorship requirements) than Chinese companies (and their government), I'm having a hard time getting all up in arms about it.

lm28469 2y ago

China is not my enemy hence everything china does is good and everything my government does against any chinese action is bad Sheesh, I'll never understand people smart enough to see their local government as bad but dumb enough to idolise every other foreign power

latentcall 2y ago
I don’t idolize any government national or foreign, that would be silly.

71bw 2y ago

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greenie_beans 2y ago
i'm not on tiktok and have never seen a tiktok about this issue but i care about it. same with a lot of my friends who are not on tiktok. same with hn god paul graham.
latentcall 2y ago
What lies about Israel-Hamas? Pro-Palestinian support isn’t a Chinese psyop, people can see the videos coming from Gaza plainly and make up their own opinion. I never bought the idea that the American people are super gun ho about Israel. My family are all conservative Midwest folks and they don’t see why we give them so much money when Americans at home suffer. It’s not just the “left” that thinks this.