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Best drug suite for productivity: Copious running and moderate weights and calisthenics; moderate coffee, including occasional midday coffee with L-theanine; a

by ChiMan 2y ago

Best drug suite for productivity: Copious running and moderate weights and calisthenics; moderate coffee, including occasional midday coffee with L-theanine; a protein-rich diet with minimal sugar and carbs generally; in bed by 9:30. If your job doesn’t allow enough time for these minimal investments in your productivity, then get a different job. Don’t waste your life working for fools, or competing with them.

BobbyJo 2y ago
Have you tried the others? I don't mean to be facetious, and I think you're correct in terms of long term sustainability and health, but, unless you've tried the drugs or are citing a paper, there isn't much substance yo your assertion. You're also overlooking the affect of stacking drugs on top of all the other things you list.
- sabbaticaldev 2y ago
  same thing can be said about the opposite. People addicted to drugs to be productive, have they tried GP strategy? > you're also overlooking the affect of stacking drugs on top of all the other things you list. that’s an exception, people looking for shortcuts won’t take the long route
  - renewiltord 2y ago
    Yes. I have done all that. Coffee, coffee plus l theanine, plus Mg supplement, plus vit supplements, lifting (at 155 lbs, I had dl 375, squat 265, front squat 225, bench 185, ohp 135, clean and jerk 135, snatch 115), 23 min 5k (untrained, I got my running from daily Barry’s class), rhr 39 bpm, HIIT every morning, sleep 10 pm to 6 pm. Many variants. All these are outclassed by even modafinil. And that is a candle to the sun that is amphetamine. Only reason I don’t use the drugs is I want to avoid habit formation. Afterburners on, man. You don’t know the fire till you’ve seen it. Now I am like a family man, but you can pour gasoline on youthful bonfire. Probabilistic failure possible but if you’re lucky, emerge unscathed.
    - mancerayder 2y ago
      I'd rather be unproductive than live that intensely, drugs or early bed time and intense exercise nonstop. I do exercise because it's fun, rather than to work more.
  - BobbyJo 2y ago
    > same thing can be said about the opposite. People addicted to drugs to be productive, have they tried GP strategy? Well yes, but I'm not making any assertions there.
potatoicecoffee 2y ago
productivity isn't worth forcing yourself to have a toddlers bedtime
- mikemcquaid 2y ago
  Living longer, being stronger and being happier all make it worth it, though.
Havoc 2y ago
> in bed by 9:30 That may be a touch optimistic for the crowd in question.
- sabbaticaldev 2y ago
  People change (as we get older?)
mancerayder 2y ago
I agree that exercise is a great psychological benefit. But at a certain age you're exhausted more easily and recover less well. I say this as very active middle-aged weightlifter (who gets more joint pain from running but that's besides the point). But maybe since this article talks about people in their 20s mostly, including I think 30s, your advice us definitely worth following. But if you need something to work 20 hr days on deals, I dunno, maybe don't do that. Or maybe do it with a fixed goal - save $x. I think a lot of the people in the articles are addicted to work, though! I'm lucky in that I never had that issue.

by ChiMan 2y ago

BobbyJo 2y ago

Have you tried the others? I don't mean to be facetious, and I think you're correct in terms of long term sustainability and health, but, unless you've tried the drugs or are citing a paper, there isn't much substance yo your assertion. You're also overlooking the affect of stacking drugs on top of all the other things you list.

sabbaticaldev 2y ago
same thing can be said about the opposite. People addicted to drugs to be productive, have they tried GP strategy? > you're also overlooking the affect of stacking drugs on top of all the other things you list. that’s an exception, people looking for shortcuts won’t take the long route
- renewiltord 2y ago
  Yes. I have done all that. Coffee, coffee plus l theanine, plus Mg supplement, plus vit supplements, lifting (at 155 lbs, I had dl 375, squat 265, front squat 225, bench 185, ohp 135, clean and jerk 135, snatch 115), 23 min 5k (untrained, I got my running from daily Barry’s class), rhr 39 bpm, HIIT every morning, sleep 10 pm to 6 pm. Many variants. All these are outclassed by even modafinil. And that is a candle to the sun that is amphetamine. Only reason I don’t use the drugs is I want to avoid habit formation. Afterburners on, man. You don’t know the fire till you’ve seen it. Now I am like a family man, but you can pour gasoline on youthful bonfire. Probabilistic failure possible but if you’re lucky, emerge unscathed.
  - mancerayder 2y ago
    I'd rather be unproductive than live that intensely, drugs or early bed time and intense exercise nonstop. I do exercise because it's fun, rather than to work more.
- BobbyJo 2y ago
  > same thing can be said about the opposite. People addicted to drugs to be productive, have they tried GP strategy? Well yes, but I'm not making any assertions there.

potatoicecoffee 2y ago

productivity isn't worth forcing yourself to have a toddlers bedtime

mikemcquaid 2y ago
Living longer, being stronger and being happier all make it worth it, though.

Havoc 2y ago

> in bed by 9:30 That may be a touch optimistic for the crowd in question.

sabbaticaldev 2y ago
People change (as we get older?)

mancerayder 2y ago

I agree that exercise is a great psychological benefit. But at a certain age you're exhausted more easily and recover less well. I say this as very active middle-aged weightlifter (who gets more joint pain from running but that's besides the point). But maybe since this article talks about people in their 20s mostly, including I think 30s, your advice us definitely worth following. But if you need something to work 20 hr days on deals, I dunno, maybe don't do that. Or maybe do it with a fixed goal - save $x. I think a lot of the people in the articles are addicted to work, though! I'm lucky in that I never had that issue.