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Here's the Nature article that the university press release links to: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-08234-x https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-

Here's the Nature article that the university press release links to: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-08234-x https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-08234-x

kergonath 2y ago
Thanks. I’ll take that over an over-hyped press release from a university PR person.
hammock 2y ago
Reminds me very much of much of the frontier science Ashton Forbes (the crazy zero-point energy guy) has been exposing on Twitter. For example: "There is a very deep connection between magnetism and zero-point energy. So yeah, go ahead and build a magnetic motor. It's possible to draw this energy just using spins of electrons and permanent magnets." https://x.com/JustXAshton/status/1830621589848928459 https://x.com/JustXAshton/status/1830621589848928459 Unfortunately I can't find some of the more relevant posts I have seen recently. But maybe someone else on HN also follows this guy. Also: Magnet 900,000 times stronger than Earth reveals directional mass particles https://www.yahoo.com/news/magnet-900-000-times-stronger-140322722.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/magnet-900-000-times-stronger-140...
- whatshisface 2y ago
  Just because energy is there doesn't mean you can use it. You can only use changes in energy, like a battery discharging or a log burning. Zero point energy is the resting energy of empty space, and the only theoretical scenarios where it changes involve the laws of physics being changed and the universe being destroyed. In a sense it's the tension of having laws of nature. I sincerely hope it's not on the menu of consumable fuels. It's also worth mentioning that quasiparticles are bursts of energy that move through materials. For example a soundwave is a burst of quasiparticles, and the quietest possible sound is one quasiparticle, a phonon. I think this disclaimer should accompany all of the press releases about new particles discovered in condensed matter (solids, basically).
Jarmsy 2y ago
It seemed odd to me that the article gave the authors' email addresses but no link to the actual article!

Here's the Nature article that the university press release links to: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-08234-x https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-08234-x

kergonath 2y ago

Thanks. I’ll take that over an over-hyped press release from a university PR person.

hammock 2y ago

Reminds me very much of much of the frontier science Ashton Forbes (the crazy zero-point energy guy) has been exposing on Twitter. For example: "There is a very deep connection between magnetism and zero-point energy. So yeah, go ahead and build a magnetic motor. It's possible to draw this energy just using spins of electrons and permanent magnets." https://x.com/JustXAshton/status/1830621589848928459 https://x.com/JustXAshton/status/1830621589848928459 Unfortunately I can't find some of the more relevant posts I have seen recently. But maybe someone else on HN also follows this guy. Also: Magnet 900,000 times stronger than Earth reveals directional mass particles https://www.yahoo.com/news/magnet-900-000-times-stronger-140322722.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/magnet-900-000-times-stronger-140...

whatshisface 2y ago
Just because energy is there doesn't mean you can use it. You can only use changes in energy, like a battery discharging or a log burning. Zero point energy is the resting energy of empty space, and the only theoretical scenarios where it changes involve the laws of physics being changed and the universe being destroyed. In a sense it's the tension of having laws of nature. I sincerely hope it's not on the menu of consumable fuels. It's also worth mentioning that quasiparticles are bursts of energy that move through materials. For example a soundwave is a burst of quasiparticles, and the quietest possible sound is one quasiparticle, a phonon. I think this disclaimer should accompany all of the press releases about new particles discovered in condensed matter (solids, basically).

Jarmsy 2y ago

It seemed odd to me that the article gave the authors' email addresses but no link to the actual article!