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last sentence: But we may yet get to the point where it becomes clear that the government will never be willing or able to regulate these industries in the way

by BMc2020 2y ago

last sentence: But we may yet get to the point where it becomes clear that the government will never be willing or able to regulate these industries in the ways that morality requires and that the people demand. So then what?

jmward01 2y ago
It is easily arguable that the US just voted, with a clear majority, to continue to support the policy makers directly responsible for keeping this system in place. The government is doing what we are asking for and we are arguably getting exactly what we deserve. I look around the US and I see a lot of people point fingers and saying 'its their fault' but the truth is pretty clear to me. It is our fault. You want to get the government to change? Vote. Convince your neighbors to stop voting against their self interest. If healthcare is so evil then look at who voted for the current system and vote them out. Write to your reps and tell them that their support of this system is unacceptable. Get informed and look around the world at what works and encourage adopting that. Figure out why people are not voting in their self interest and lobby to change that. When I look at the US I keep thinking the same thing over and over again, all people are created equal but some (companies) are more equal than others. Get mad that the corporate freedom of speech is more equal than yours and vote out people that try to increase company influence.
- BMc2020 2y ago
  We tried voting... Bill Clinton had campaigned heavily on health care in the 1992 United States presidential election...On September 26, 1994, the final compromise Democratic bill was declared dead by Senate majority leader George J. Mitchell. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_health_care_plan_of_1993 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_health_care_plan_of_19...
tossandthrow 2y ago
Reading nexus, Yuval Noah talks about these things. He establishes a hirarchy of checks and balances well functioning democracies have, but conviniently stops at the media and how they can cover stuff like this. The natural next step would be civil disobedience, which should be the point where law makers swiftly takes things seriously as not to have a society go from a democracy to an anarchy.

jmward01 2y ago

It is easily arguable that the US just voted, with a clear majority, to continue to support the policy makers directly responsible for keeping this system in place. The government is doing what we are asking for and we are arguably getting exactly what we deserve. I look around the US and I see a lot of people point fingers and saying 'its their fault' but the truth is pretty clear to me. It is our fault. You want to get the government to change? Vote. Convince your neighbors to stop voting against their self interest. If healthcare is so evil then look at who voted for the current system and vote them out. Write to your reps and tell them that their support of this system is unacceptable. Get informed and look around the world at what works and encourage adopting that. Figure out why people are not voting in their self interest and lobby to change that. When I look at the US I keep thinking the same thing over and over again, all people are created equal but some (companies) are more equal than others. Get mad that the corporate freedom of speech is more equal than yours and vote out people that try to increase company influence.

BMc2020 2y ago
We tried voting... Bill Clinton had campaigned heavily on health care in the 1992 United States presidential election...On September 26, 1994, the final compromise Democratic bill was declared dead by Senate majority leader George J. Mitchell. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_health_care_plan_of_1993 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_health_care_plan_of_19...

tossandthrow 2y ago

Reading nexus, Yuval Noah talks about these things. He establishes a hirarchy of checks and balances well functioning democracies have, but conviniently stops at the media and how they can cover stuff like this. The natural next step would be civil disobedience, which should be the point where law makers swiftly takes things seriously as not to have a society go from a democracy to an anarchy.