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IIRC the limitations and quirks in changing e-ink pixels are enough that regular laptop software would make for a bad user experience. So you'd spend a lot of

by Terr_ 2y ago

IIRC the limitations and quirks in changing e-ink pixels are enough that regular laptop software would make for a bad user experience. So you'd spend a lot of time creating workarounds like a a separate LCD line-display showing what characters someone is typing until they hit enter, etc. Random idea: Have the e-ink isplay as an additional device one on the opposite side of the regular screen. When the laptop is open, you can show things like " do not disturb" to others, and when closing the litter shutting it down, it can put up things you can read like upcoming meetings or whatever.

singlepaynews 2y ago
I’m in the “viability valley” of e-ink applications; happy to give up video, not happy to give up vsCode. I do not care about pen-based notetaking, but I care immensely about installing 3rd-party software outside of an App Store. I’ve been very pleased with the DASUNG 25” monitor that uses the same Kaleido 3 as the 13” display available from e-ink, which gives me hope, but as the market stands for someone to have a real laptop instead of a tablet there’s going to be a screwdriver involved.
- ThrowawayR2 2y ago
  Seems doubtful that you'd get the same refresh rate out of the evaluation e-Ink driver board as the Dasung products? That's a development / evaluation board intended for product development teams with actual engineers to experiment with, not a consumer or even a hobbyist product. IIRC Dasung does a lot of customization to get the performance they do out of their displays.
  - singlepaynews 2y ago
    Found the relevant data sheet: https://shopkits.eink.com/en/download/0223121109cy194658/User%20Manual%20-%2013.3%22%20Kaleido%203%20Outdoor%20ePaper%20Display%20(SD1452-NCB).pdf https://shopkits.eink.com/en/download/0223121109cy194658/Use... It would be enough for me to get a proof-of-concept with a >1sec refresh rate, assuming that I could hire engineers to then do aforementioned customization. If that’s the plan, would you be avaliable?

by Terr_ 2y ago

singlepaynews 2y ago

I’m in the “viability valley” of e-ink applications; happy to give up video, not happy to give up vsCode. I do not care about pen-based notetaking, but I care immensely about installing 3rd-party software outside of an App Store. I’ve been very pleased with the DASUNG 25” monitor that uses the same Kaleido 3 as the 13” display available from e-ink, which gives me hope, but as the market stands for someone to have a real laptop instead of a tablet there’s going to be a screwdriver involved.

ThrowawayR2 2y ago
Seems doubtful that you'd get the same refresh rate out of the evaluation e-Ink driver board as the Dasung products? That's a development / evaluation board intended for product development teams with actual engineers to experiment with, not a consumer or even a hobbyist product. IIRC Dasung does a lot of customization to get the performance they do out of their displays.
- singlepaynews 2y ago
  Found the relevant data sheet: https://shopkits.eink.com/en/download/0223121109cy194658/User%20Manual%20-%2013.3%22%20Kaleido%203%20Outdoor%20ePaper%20Display%20(SD1452-NCB).pdf https://shopkits.eink.com/en/download/0223121109cy194658/Use... It would be enough for me to get a proof-of-concept with a >1sec refresh rate, assuming that I could hire engineers to then do aforementioned customization. If that’s the plan, would you be avaliable?