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> The enforcement of laws is not authoritarianism. The manner of restrictions, the immunity of the police and authorities above laws, the form of trial system,

> The enforcement of laws is not authoritarianism. The manner of restrictions, the immunity of the police and authorities above laws, the form of trial system, etc are what make up authoritarian systems I just don't agree at all—formal democracies and democratic institutions can be authoritarian, too. I certainly don't have the faith in our justice system you have.

_2d30 2y ago
Sorry that you don't agree that the enforcement of laws is not authoritarianism and you are currently living in a liberal society. The vast majority of people who have lived in liberal societies for ages unfortunately believe that enforcing the laws that are made by either direct democracy or through their democratically elected institutions is good and just and I expect that will continue for a long while. You will unfortunately have to live in such a world where people are not allowed to do crime.
- PittleyDunkin 2y ago
  > Sorry that you don't agree that the enforcement of laws is not authoritarianism I never said this. Still, you can trivially pass authoritarian laws in an otherwise liberal society. > The vast majority of people who have lived in liberal societies for ages Only about 230 years, but sure. > unfortunately believe that enforcing the laws that are made by either direct democracy or through their democratically elected institutions is good and just and I expect that will continue for a long while. Sure, that doesn't make this not authoritarian. Sometimes people are just sick, scared, lonely people that are incapable of considering the impact of their actions. That's (collective) america to a T. If you knowingly sell someone snake oil you can't be shocked when they buy it. > You will unfortunately have to live in such a world where people are not allowed to do crime. I wouldn't really mind this if the crimes actually seems to correlate with encouraging a more livable society for the most of us.
  - _2d30 2y ago
    > I never said this. Here's a picture of your post: https://imgur.com/a/5E2sbHV https://imgur.com/a/5E2sbHV

_2d30 2y ago

Sorry that you don't agree that the enforcement of laws is not authoritarianism and you are currently living in a liberal society. The vast majority of people who have lived in liberal societies for ages unfortunately believe that enforcing the laws that are made by either direct democracy or through their democratically elected institutions is good and just and I expect that will continue for a long while. You will unfortunately have to live in such a world where people are not allowed to do crime.

PittleyDunkin 2y ago
> Sorry that you don't agree that the enforcement of laws is not authoritarianism I never said this. Still, you can trivially pass authoritarian laws in an otherwise liberal society. > The vast majority of people who have lived in liberal societies for ages Only about 230 years, but sure. > unfortunately believe that enforcing the laws that are made by either direct democracy or through their democratically elected institutions is good and just and I expect that will continue for a long while. Sure, that doesn't make this not authoritarian. Sometimes people are just sick, scared, lonely people that are incapable of considering the impact of their actions. That's (collective) america to a T. If you knowingly sell someone snake oil you can't be shocked when they buy it. > You will unfortunately have to live in such a world where people are not allowed to do crime. I wouldn't really mind this if the crimes actually seems to correlate with encouraging a more livable society for the most of us.
- _2d30 2y ago
  > I never said this. Here's a picture of your post: https://imgur.com/a/5E2sbHV https://imgur.com/a/5E2sbHV