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Everybody is talking about that: Trump, EU... a really non-controversial thing, DST causes more problems than it solves. And nobody is doing anything. Ahhh, pr

Everybody is talking about that: Trump, EU... a really non-controversial thing, DST causes more problems than it solves. And nobody is doing anything. Ahhh, promises.

jqpabc123 2y ago
As soon as it is eliminated, I predict the start of a decades long movement to restore it. DST wasn't some sort of government conspiracy against citizens. There were valid reasons for it that have clearly been forgotten. For most people, DST provides an extra hour of daylight after work for personal activities for most of the year. Without DST, the extra daylight will occur before the start of the workday --- where it is harder to take advantage of because most people have to start preping for work or school. Net result: Less personal time during daylight hours. Show of hands for those who want this?
- acdha 2y ago
  DST started as a wartime idea to use less fuel for artificial lighting, but studies never found evidence of actual energy savings or reductions in car crashes because all it does is shift usage. Whether we drop DST or make it year-round, people are going to adjust their schedules to match. If we want to give people an extra hour for personal time, we should pass a law requiring employers to allow telework or invest transit since that would actually free up 1-2 hours per day.
  - jqpabc123 2y ago
    Not everyone has a telework job. And many who do still have to be available during "business hours". Regardless of work type, DST likely offers you more personal time during daylight hours. Most don't object to this --- even many who currently claim to hate DST. Take it away and many will come to realize that changing your clock is no biggie and just might be worth the bother.
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    - acdha 2y ago
      > Not everyone has a telework job. And many who do still have to be available during "business hours”. Yes, and DST doesn’t help with that either. My point was simply that those are things which actually change the time available for many millions of people whereas in the winter the time change just controls whether it’s darker in the morning or evening without changing the number of hours. Right now, I have a little over 9 hours of daylight. DST offsets can change whether that starts earlier or later but it doesn’t add more time so if we shift the start so fewer people are going to work in the dark, more people will be going home in the dark. If we don’t do things like add before/aftercare for kids, too, then many people won’t even have the option of adjusting their schedules to optimize the available daytime.

Everybody is talking about that: Trump, EU... a really non-controversial thing, DST causes more problems than it solves. And nobody is doing anything. Ahhh, promises.

jqpabc123 2y ago

As soon as it is eliminated, I predict the start of a decades long movement to restore it. DST wasn't some sort of government conspiracy against citizens. There were valid reasons for it that have clearly been forgotten. For most people, DST provides an extra hour of daylight after work for personal activities for most of the year. Without DST, the extra daylight will occur before the start of the workday --- where it is harder to take advantage of because most people have to start preping for work or school. Net result: Less personal time during daylight hours. Show of hands for those who want this?

acdha 2y ago
DST started as a wartime idea to use less fuel for artificial lighting, but studies never found evidence of actual energy savings or reductions in car crashes because all it does is shift usage. Whether we drop DST or make it year-round, people are going to adjust their schedules to match. If we want to give people an extra hour for personal time, we should pass a law requiring employers to allow telework or invest transit since that would actually free up 1-2 hours per day.
- jqpabc123 2y ago
  Not everyone has a telework job. And many who do still have to be available during "business hours". Regardless of work type, DST likely offers you more personal time during daylight hours. Most don't object to this --- even many who currently claim to hate DST. Take it away and many will come to realize that changing your clock is no biggie and just might be worth the bother.
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  - acdha 2y ago
    > Not everyone has a telework job. And many who do still have to be available during "business hours”. Yes, and DST doesn’t help with that either. My point was simply that those are things which actually change the time available for many millions of people whereas in the winter the time change just controls whether it’s darker in the morning or evening without changing the number of hours. Right now, I have a little over 9 hours of daylight. DST offsets can change whether that starts earlier or later but it doesn’t add more time so if we shift the start so fewer people are going to work in the dark, more people will be going home in the dark. If we don’t do things like add before/aftercare for kids, too, then many people won’t even have the option of adjusting their schedules to optimize the available daytime.