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Do people really think this way? In good faith? They have such a high sense of risk from school shootings that they have to organize their daily activities arou

Do people really think this way? In good faith? They have such a high sense of risk from school shootings that they have to organize their daily activities around that possibility, regardless of whether it may be ruining the learning environment, the entire nominal purpose of school?

ta988 2y ago
Yes it is really part of the thought processes of people I have met too. Really strange how the reality can be distorted to make room for guns.
SoftTalker 2y ago
When you do active shooter drills during school three or four times a year, then yes that sort of creates and reinforces a skewed perspective on the real risk. Like, what difference does it make anyway if the kid can or cannot text the parent? Not like the parent can alter the situation in any way.
- ryandrake 2y ago
  > Like, what difference does it make anyway if the kid can or cannot text the parent? Not like the parent can alter the situation in any way. Yea this is what I don’t get. How is a cell phone actually going to help when there’s a school shooter? I guess you can throw the phone at his head. There’s pretty much no reason a kid needs a phone in school. If the parent needs to get in touch with him they can call the office like in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 2000s.
  - bdangubic 2y ago
    they have phones in closets where kids are hiding parents can call to make sure their child is still breathing?! I am 10000% anti-phones in schools but this is silly argument to make. every parent of a child in America worries every day something may happen and when it does time it takes to reach your kid will be the longest time no parent should have to live through
    - ryandrake 2y ago
      I'm a parent and the last thing I'd want, if heaven forbid there was a school shooter, would be my kid (or any kid) talking on their cell phones or having the phones ringing and making noise that might cause the shooter to go investigate. A parent can literally do nothing about the situation over the phone.
      - QuarterReptile 2y ago
        I have a very particular set of skills...
      - bdangubic 2y ago
        spoken like a true parent, albeit irresponsible one… this situation is also rehearsed - phone on silent, text only, safe words … hope you never need to be prepared for it
        quesera 2y ago
        This is a terrifying way to raise children. I.e. it sounds like you've terrified your children. Why would you do that?
        bdangubic 2y ago
        there are active shooter drills in schools across the United States since like PK so you know, terrifying part is already done by government which encourages slaughter of children in schools (e.g. sandy hook) which then schools have to prepare for… then as a parent you have to try to explain this to your kid and best way to do that is to prepare some more on a personal level
        quesera 2y ago
        Active shooter drills are a tragic case of adults failing to deal with adult problems. We scare children because we're scared, and somehow imagine that sharing that fear with them is helpful to anything but our own selfish fear of fear.
bnj 2y ago
Yes, New York State is considering some form of cell phone restrictions in schools from the State level and there's substantial push back from parents who object that they need their kids to have a cell phone for safety reasons like a school shooting.

ta988 2y ago

Yes it is really part of the thought processes of people I have met too. Really strange how the reality can be distorted to make room for guns.

SoftTalker 2y ago

When you do active shooter drills during school three or four times a year, then yes that sort of creates and reinforces a skewed perspective on the real risk. Like, what difference does it make anyway if the kid can or cannot text the parent? Not like the parent can alter the situation in any way.

ryandrake 2y ago
> Like, what difference does it make anyway if the kid can or cannot text the parent? Not like the parent can alter the situation in any way. Yea this is what I don’t get. How is a cell phone actually going to help when there’s a school shooter? I guess you can throw the phone at his head. There’s pretty much no reason a kid needs a phone in school. If the parent needs to get in touch with him they can call the office like in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 2000s.
- bdangubic 2y ago
  they have phones in closets where kids are hiding parents can call to make sure their child is still breathing?! I am 10000% anti-phones in schools but this is silly argument to make. every parent of a child in America worries every day something may happen and when it does time it takes to reach your kid will be the longest time no parent should have to live through
  - ryandrake 2y ago
    I'm a parent and the last thing I'd want, if heaven forbid there was a school shooter, would be my kid (or any kid) talking on their cell phones or having the phones ringing and making noise that might cause the shooter to go investigate. A parent can literally do nothing about the situation over the phone.
    - QuarterReptile 2y ago
      I have a very particular set of skills...
    - bdangubic 2y ago
      spoken like a true parent, albeit irresponsible one… this situation is also rehearsed - phone on silent, text only, safe words … hope you never need to be prepared for it
      - quesera 2y ago
        This is a terrifying way to raise children. I.e. it sounds like you've terrified your children. Why would you do that?
        bdangubic 2y ago
        there are active shooter drills in schools across the United States since like PK so you know, terrifying part is already done by government which encourages slaughter of children in schools (e.g. sandy hook) which then schools have to prepare for… then as a parent you have to try to explain this to your kid and best way to do that is to prepare some more on a personal level
        quesera 2y ago
        Active shooter drills are a tragic case of adults failing to deal with adult problems. We scare children because we're scared, and somehow imagine that sharing that fear with them is helpful to anything but our own selfish fear of fear.

bnj 2y ago

Yes, New York State is considering some form of cell phone restrictions in schools from the State level and there's substantial push back from parents who object that they need their kids to have a cell phone for safety reasons like a school shooting.